At the risk of making Bob Jenkins *sigh*...

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by referee99

Just trying to fill in the cracks in my understanding of Ball Location.

... NFHS rules with California modifications (shot clock):

Player A1 makes a try from near 28' mark with 1 second left on shot clock. Shot Clock horn sounds while try is in flight.

a) ball comes up short. Violation. Ball inbounded by opponents sideline near 28' mark.

b) ball is shot long, caroms off of backboard after shot clock horn sounded, but before official determined that it did not have a chance to go in. Violation. Ball inbounded by opponents on end line near the basket.

Correct?

I have not officiated boys' or girls' H.S. basketball in California since the 19983-84 season. I lived in Glendale. The CIF used NHFS rules with a shot clock for girls' H.S. The shot clock rules were taken directly from the NAGWS Basketball Rules Book which was exactly like the FIBA shot clock rules. By this time the NCAA had taken over women's intercolliegate sports from the AIAW but had not stopped using NAGWS Basketball Rules. Since then the NCAA formed a Women's Basketball Rules Committee and it publishes its own set of rules.

I would advise you to find copies of the NCAA Men' and Women's Rules Book and Casebook. The relevant rules that you should look at are: R7-S4-A1, R7-S5-A1, and R9-S11-A2. The relevant casebook play is A.R. 208(2); this caseball play is associated with R9-S11-A2. Unfortunately, I do not think you are going to find an answer that will be helpful, because the rules only reference to the fact that the throw-in for the violation shall be a designated spot throw-in nearest the spot of the violation.

I hope this will help some.

MTD, Sr.

[OHBBREF]

sounds right,
try this thought process - the last place the ball had court position - when the shot was taken 28' line in A the horn sounds while ball is in flight yet the violation does not occur until determined the shot will not hit the rim - and the defense doesn't have posession of it.

in B the shot went up, horn sounded but it hit the backboard, giving it court status there, as soon as the ball doesn't hit the rim and it is determined the defense doesn't have it,

The ball is inbounded nearest where the last "court status" would have been.

I know that we are not talking about the true definintion of court status however this is an easy way determine inbound.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I have not officiated boys' or girls' H.S. basketball in California since the 19983-84 season.

MTD, Sr.

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