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Old Thu Jan 08, 2009, 03:42pm
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Hey Rocky,

Took a little liberty and added a new scenario. It didn't happen in this game by chance, did it

2nd Quarter - the officials allowed 7’-3” A6 substitute to replace 5’-7” A1 for a jump ball situation. The coach stands up and asks (not yelling or anything) why are we having a jump ball and why are you allowing him to be replaced by this 10 foot dude. Official tells him "Because I want to see how high he can jump." Coach says "But it should be our ball based on the alternating possession procedure." Official - "You need to sit down and be quiet, coach and watch how high he can jump."
No, but to be perfectly honest I wouldn't have been very surprised if it had!
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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 09:55am
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Around here, coach pulls out a rule book, and s/he will be sitting for the remainder of the game. No exceptions.

I am flabbergasted by the "Missouri Rule". How can something like that ever by justified? Wow!
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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 10:29am
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I am flabbergasted by the "Missouri Rule". How can something like that ever by justified? Wow!
I tend to agree, but on the other hand, how can something like what happened in my OP ever be justified? And to know that there is no recourse at all, well...if the coach had kept questioning the shooting of the free throws, I have absolutely no doubt that the official who told the coach to "sit down and be quiet" would have T'd the coach. So maybe the "Missouri Rule" goes too far, but where's the happy medium to deal with situations like in the OP???

On the flip side, it did give me a good opportunity to talk with my two sons about being resilient and fighting through adverse conditions - and no, I did not throw the officials under the bus in that conversation (which was hard, because I really wanted to ).
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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 10:47am
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I tend to agree, but on the other hand, how can something like what happened in my OP ever be justified? And to know that there is no recourse at all, well...if the coach had kept questioning the shooting of the free throws, I have absolutely no doubt that the official who told the coach to "sit down and be quiet" would have T'd the coach. So maybe the "Missouri Rule" goes too far, but where's the happy medium to deal with situations like in the OP???
I agree that if the coach had continued he would have got the T - just because the R had to justify his postion.

The happy medium?
I am not sure where that is but part of it comes from us, training - mentoring and boards like this that help people learn the rules. By creating a bigger pool of well qualifed officials in any area - those that do not meet muster will be forced to either step up and improve or not have any games to work.

The other thing is that the assigners and commissioners of leagues need to get rid of these old boy networks - a lot of stuff gets overlooked because of friendships.
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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 02:19pm
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On the flip side, it did give me a good opportunity to talk with my two sons about being resilient and fighting through adverse conditions - and no, I did not throw the officials under the bus in that conversation (which was hard, because I really wanted to ).
Wow, how could you avoid it?!? Did you at least tell your kids the refs were wrong? i admire your loyalty, but I can't imagine pulling that off myself.
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