Crab Dribble?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

If someone posts a video clip of the play that would be helpful and we could take a look.

It's on youtube. He looks like Jack jumping over the candlestick.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

It's on youtube. He looks like Jack jumping over the candlestick.

How about a link?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

How about a link?

YouTube - Cavaliers vs. Wizards 1/4/09 GAME RECAP

[Adam]

Looks to me like a poorly executed jump stop. Players and fans need to get this two steps crap out of their heads; it's all about the pivot foot.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by just another ref

It's on youtube. He looks like Jack jumping over the candlestick.

Happens at the 2:00 mark of the video....and, IT'S NOT like Jack jumping over a candlestick.....it's a CRAB DRIBBLE! C'mon!!!

[just another ref]

I get it. A crab has 8 legs, so the pivot foot is a real mystery, just like when Lebron does practically anything.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I get it. A crab has 8 legs, so the pivot foot is a real mystery, just like when Lebron does practically anything.

Dude: crabs are decapods. Maybe that reinforces your point.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Crabs are decapods.

Here's my attempt at a mbryon to English translation:

"Crabs have ten legs"

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Happens at the 2:00 mark of the video....and, IT'S NOT like Jack jumping over a candlestick.....it's a CRAB DRIBBLE! C'mon!!!

That version of the crab dribble is clearly a travel.

[zm1283]

Someone posted an article on here a while back about NBA referees. They mentioned that the one rule that people don't understand is that the NBA has some other kind of criteria for traveling. Something about a rythym that they use. I can't remember it exactly. Does anyone else remember this?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Someone posted an article on here a while back about NBA referees. They mentioned that the one rule that people don't understand is that the NBA has some other kind of criteria for traveling. Something about a rythym that they use. I can't remember it exactly. Does anyone else remember this?

A ref's life: To get ready, officials often go to the tape

It was from USA Today - I actually posted it. (Link above, article excerpt below)

Many fans believe NBA referees ignore all but the most blatant of traveling calls. But after countless hours of video review, Foster maintains that most of the time, they get it right.

The NBA allows a "two-count rhythm" after a player gathers the ball. But fans don't recognize that a player must have complete possession of the ball, and that the steps start after the gather. "In some cases that can be two very large strides to the basket," Foster says. "After reviewing tape it is often seen that what fans might have thought was a travel is in fact just an 'awkward' legal move."

At other levels of basketball, players are whistled for traveling if they fall to the floor with the ball. Not so in the NBA — as long as the player gains no advantage by rolling or sliding away from an opponent.

An NBA player is also free to rise if he gains control of the ball while on the floor.

There is an instance where NBA referees call traveling that won't be called at other levels. It's the "hop-hop" travel, when a player alights off a foot and lands on the same foot, i.e., a "jump stop."

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

My call is traveling.

Since I couldn't slow the tape down, so it took me a while to break it down but here is how I saw it:

1) He stopped his dribble (grabbing the ball with both hands) while his right foot was in contact with the floor.

2) He then proceeded to jump off his right foot.

3) He then landed on his left foot.

4) He then leaped off his left foot.

5) He then landed on his right foot.

6) He then leaped off his right foot in an attempt to shoot the ball.

Casebook traveling.

MTD, Sr.


P.S. What I really liked was the offensive foul for charging the was called against LaBron about a minute earlier in the game. He was trying to move diagonally across the defender and made full contact with the front of the defender's torso and knocked him down. The Cleveland HC recieved a free E-Ticket to the lockerroom because his protesting the foul against LaBron.

[Coltdoggs]

Fast and slow, looked like 3 steps to me...a poorly executed jumpstop.

Sorry LBJ, you are wrong on this one....they got it correct (unless the NBA rulebook allows for a pivot foot to be lifted and returned to the floor prior to releasing a shot).

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

My call is traveling.

Since I couldn't slow the tape down, so it took me a while to break it down but here is how I saw it:

1) He stopped his dribble (grabbing the ball with both hands) while his right foot was in contact with the floor.

2) He then proceeded to jump off his right foot.

3) He then landed on his left foot.

4) He then leaped off his left foot.

5) He then landed on his right foot.

6) He then leaped off his right foot in an attempt to shoot the ball.

Casebook traveling.

MTD, Sr.

You are CORRECT, sir!

[TNZebra44]

This discussion about LJ reaffirms my opinion. "Crab-dribble?" There is something to be said for the requirement of NCAA participation both for the classroom and court experience.