Big Time HS holiday tourneys

[zeedonk]

Just watching a replay of the Old Spice HS tourney from last week in Ft Meyers, FL. Lots of big time teams and players during the week. A few questions came to mind while watching...

1- Tourney used 3 man crews- how are these assignments made? Is it local or do teams suggest a local official or two?

2- Have any of you participated in these types of tourneys? If so, are there any guidelines about how close to call the games? Do tourney directors view these events as showcases (ie lax on calls, let 'em play deals) or is it understood to call the games as you usually would?

While it was nice to see some of the big names from around the country, I was a little disappointed in the level of intensity in some of the games. Even the coaches seemed to be on best behavior...(St Pat's NJ coach Boyle actually wore a tie and only yelled at his team instead of everyone in the gym)

Any thoughts? Is this typical?

Z

[zeedonk]

Maybe I should have put quotes around "big time"- Really, nobody has anything...?

[Raymond]

Well, I personally have never officiated a "big time" HS tournament.

There is a local tournament that is sponsored by a current NFL player and is played at a local D1 arena but it is assigned by our commissioner as he does all of our HS games.

[JRutledge]

Honestly, I do not know what you consider "Big Time."

I have worked many tournaments, but if you consider them "Big Time" is a relative term.

I am also sure that tournaments across the country have many different facets to them and the way they are assigned.

I have also only been told one time how to call a game. We did what we normally did in any game was best and laughed about the comments later.

Peace

[truerookie]

I just finished working the 25th Iolani Classic here in Oahu, Hawaii. Where there was a 16 team field. 7 from the mainland, 1 from China and 8 local teams. We did not enforced dunking during warm-ups and we used the shot clock (35). Great games Championship came down to Double overtime.

Iolani Classic Hawaii Basketball Tournament

Teams were:
Fairfax (CA)
Iolani (HI)
Oak Hill Academy (VA)
Kaimuki (HI)
Dematha (MD)
Leilehua (HI)
LeFlore (AL)
Moanalua (HI)
Montrose Christian (MD)
McKinley (HI)
Putnam City (OK)
Mid Pacific (HI)
Whitney Young (IL)
Maryknoll (HI)
Tsinghua (China)
Kamehameha (HI)

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by truerookie

I just finished working the 25th Iolani Classic here in Oahu, Hawaii. Where there was a 16 team field. 7 from the mainland, 1 from China and 8 local teams. We did not enforced dunking during warm-ups and we used the shot clock (35). Great games Championship came down to Double overtime.

Iolani Classic Hawaii Basketball Tournament

Teams were:
Fairfax (CA)
Iolani (HI)
Oak Hill Academy (VA)
Kaimuki (HI)
Dematha (MD)
Leilehua (HI)
LeFlore (AL)
Moanalua (HI)
Montrose Christian (MD)
McKinley (HI)
Putnam City (OK)
Mid Pacific (HI)
Whitney Young (IL)
Maryknoll (HI)
Tsinghua (China)
Kamehameha (HI)

Well, the 2 teams from Maryland and 1 from VA would be considered big-time. Guess that makes you a 'big-time' official.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by truerookie

I just finished working the 25th Iolani Classic here in Oahu, Hawaii. Where there was a 16 team field. 7 from the mainland, 1 from China and 8 local teams. We did not enforced dunking during warm-ups and we used the shot clock (35). Great games Championship came down to Double overtime.

Iolani Classic Hawaii Basketball Tournament

Teams were:
Fairfax (CA)
Iolani (HI)
Oak Hill Academy (VA)
Kaimuki (HI)
Dematha (MD)
Leilehua (HI)
LeFlore (AL)
Moanalua (HI)
Montrose Christian (MD)
McKinley (HI)
Putnam City (OK)
Mid Pacific (HI)
Whitney Young (IL)
Maryknoll (HI)
Tsinghua (China)
Kamehameha (HI)

LeFlore is a top team in Mobile. Oak Hill, Montrose Christian and DeMatha are national programs and Fairfax is a power in California. I would think this was probably one of the best holiday tournaments going.

Who won the tournament? Wow, I've moved around so much I've officiated 3 out of those 4 teams. The ironic thing is the only one of those 4 I haven't officiated is now the closest (LeFlore is only 50 miles from me now).

[LSams]

Most of the Holiday Tournaments in Florida -- and there are several that draw teams from a national level -- are sanctioned by FHSAA -- So FHSAA officials are used. Most of the time, the local association assigns these games -- but not always.

There was some conflict in my old association in Orlando several years ago, about guys (and gals) turning back games assigned by the association to work tournament games assigned by an individual working for a particular tournament. That individual was assigning officials from all around the state (all FHSAA officials, but most of the top level officials from around the state).

The next year, the games for that particular tournament were assigned by the local association. The year after that, I moved to Ohio and haven't gotten to officiate since then.

[TravelinMan]

Putnam City in OKC no slouch either. Ranked #24 nationally. Has #1 HS player in the country according to ESPNU - Xavier Henry.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Well, the 2 teams from Maryland and 1 from VA would be considered big-time. Guess that makes you a 'big-time' official.

Nah, not no where near "big time", I can assure you there were some great games during this tournament.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by TravelinMan

Putnam City in OKC no slouch either. Ranked #24 nationally. Has #1 HS player in the country according to ESPNU - Xavier Henry.

Yeah, he was here. However, he did not play had some type of injury.

[truerookie]

[QUOTE=tomegun;562401]LeFlore is a top team in Mobile. Oak Hill, Montrose Christian and DeMatha are national programs and Fairfax is a power in California. I would think this was probably one of the best holiday tournaments going.

Who won the tournament?

Oakhill won it!

[TravelinMan]

That's too bad. I think they would have given Oak Hill a run for their money. Xavier is a 6'6" 220 lb. shooting guard that will be going directly into the NBA (Memphis wants him). He's the best shooting guard I've ever seen. One player Oak Hill did not get.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by truerookie

I just finished working the 25th Iolani Classic here in Oahu, Hawaii. Where there was a 16 team field. 7 from the mainland, 1 from China and 8 local teams. We did not enforced dunking during warm-ups and we used the shot clock (35). Great games Championship came down to Double overtime.

Iolani Classic Hawaii Basketball Tournament

Teams were:
Fairfax (CA)
Iolani (HI)
Oak Hill Academy (VA)
Kaimuki (HI)
Dematha (MD)
Leilehua (HI)
LeFlore (AL)
Moanalua (HI)
Montrose Christian (MD)
McKinley (HI)
Putnam City (OK)
Mid Pacific (HI)
Whitney Young (IL)
Maryknoll (HI)
Tsinghua (China)
Kamehameha (HI)

Fanboy alert.............. Did you do the Whitney Young game? Jordan's son, Marcus is on the team and IMHO highly overrated yet a good player.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Fanboy alert.............. Did you do the Whitney Young game? Jordan's son, Marcus is on the team and IMHO highly overrated yet a good player.

I actually did do the Whitney Young / Putnam City game. Whitney Young won. I viewed him as a player who plays within his team system and not try to be a superstar because of his surname.