Substitution Question

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

But only the FT shooter is allowed to replace a starter and enter. Subs from both teams can't freely come in at that time after the T. They are still required to wait by a rule. The T only grants an exception to the one sub who is attempting the first FT (and maybe the 2nd).

Show me ANYTHING that remotely supports that. Once the T is called, the game has already started...a foul is recorded in the book. The definition of a "starter" is no longer relevant.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The situation is similar here. There is a rule that places a restriction on all substitutes who don't report prior to the warning horn. They now cannot enter until the next substitution opportunity. The T would allow ONE player to be replaced by an exception and only if that entering sub is attempting that first FT.

The place where we lack clarity is what exactly constitutes the next substitution opportunity.

Once the timeout is over and another infraction is called, the ball is now dead not because of the timeout but because of the infraction. In this case, it is a violation. There is no violation that I know of where subs can't enter the game. Once the violation is "called", it will be as if the timeout never occured.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

PS It is silly to state that I am making stuff up because you don't have any clear rules support for your position that "every new infraction creates a new point for substitution" either.

Remeber the concept that if something is not detailed as illegal, that it is legal. I don't recall ever seeing anything saying a sub can't come in after a violation.

The substitution rule is obviously written assuming that there are no complicating situations....nothing unusual has occured.