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BillyMac Wed Dec 17, 2008 08:14pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 559023)
I'm guessing the hang up is on the use of the word "hands", as in plural.

A held ball occurs when: Opponents have their hands so firmly on the ball that control cannot be obtained without undue roughness.

Two players. Four hands. Two hands from one player, two hands from the other: held ball. One hand each: no held ball? Two hands from one player, one hand from another: held ball?

Camron Rust Thu Dec 18, 2008 03:16am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 559189)
A held ball occurs when: Opponents have their hands so firmly on the ball that control cannot be obtained without undue roughness.

Two players. Four hands. Two hands from one player, two hands from the other: held ball. One hand each: no held ball? Two hands from one player, one hand from another: held ball?

When each opponent has one hand on the ball "Opponents have their hands" on the ball. Between them, there is plurality.

Imagine both players tucking the ball under a single arm as in a football running back and tugging on it. Is there anyone that suggest this is no a held ball?

M&M Guy Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:14am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 559253)
Imagine both players tucking the ball under a single arm as in a football running back and tugging on it.

In which case there are <B>no</B> hands on it. ;)

But I agree with the idea. In the OP, I would've called a held ball as well, only because the player "gave up" and didn't attempt to get the ball away from the defender. I'm normally a little slow in signaling a held ball because I need to see control by both teams, and enough control where, as the rule states, "control cannot be obtained without undue roughness". Because the OP stated they waited a little, and both players had "equal" control, I would've eventually signaled the held ball as well.


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