Held Ball?
 

A1 is lying on the floor and has the ball in his arms. B1 reaches in and gets an entire hand on the ball and keeps it there for a while (one hand only) while A1 is making no attempt to pass the ball...I was patient to see how it developed (as i was unsure if held ball was correct), finally I called a held ball. right or wrong?

I am thinking wrong call.

Thanks

I'd probably have called this, too.

If that's not a held ball, what do you think the call should be? Or do you think it's a no call? Have you read the definition of a held ball in the rulebook?

I'm guessing the hang up is on the use of the word "hands", as in plural.

while I do not have the rule book with me, it is my understanding that a jump ball is to be called with the players share control and I wasn't sure whether one hand on the ball by one player meant both had control...

A1 jumps to release a shot, B3 blocks the ball (with 1 hand) so it doesn't leave A1s hands & he returns to the floor.

Results in a held ball not a travel.

I see this situation as very different. would it still result it a held ball if A1 was on the floor and passing?

Shared control is not necessary. If both players are prevented from gaining complete control without undue force, it's a held ball.

thanks, this answers my question.

Extremely different, but "1 hand" is what the 2 share in common.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but by your OP I thought that was the reason for your concern.

Only if they're conjoined twins. :rolleyes:

On opposing teams? :horror:

I had exactly the same thing last night in a VG game.

A1 has the ball laying on the floor in the frontcourt. B1 reaches in and puts one hand on it and just looks at me. I didn't see anything close to simultaneous possession. We all just sat there for what seemed like forever (maybe 2 seconds) and I finally called a held ball. Not sure what I should done (definitely not legal guarding position) and A1 was making no attempt to do anything with the ball. Something had to give.

Conjoined twins? Were they wearing the same number? :confused:

Sorry - being from the South Side, I couldn't help teasing a Cubs fan. ;)

The school district boundary is divided top bunk and bottom bunk. :D

I Didn't Know That There Was Going To Be Any Math ???
 

A held ball occurs when: Opponents have their hands so firmly on the ball that control cannot be obtained without undue roughness.

Two players. Four hands. Two hands from one player, two hands from the other: held ball. One hand each: no held ball? Two hands from one player, one hand from another: held ball?

When each opponent has one hand on the ball "Opponents have their hands" on the ball. Between them, there is plurality.

Imagine both players tucking the ball under a single arm as in a football running back and tugging on it. Is there anyone that suggest this is no a held ball?

In which case there are <B>no</B> hands on it. ;)

But I agree with the idea. In the OP, I would've called a held ball as well, only because the player "gave up" and didn't attempt to get the ball away from the defender. I'm normally a little slow in signaling a held ball because I need to see control by both teams, and enough control where, as the rule states, "control cannot be obtained without undue roughness". Because the OP stated they waited a little, and both players had "equal" control, I would've eventually signaled the held ball as well.