Fifth quarter

[Rita C]

Local middle schools do not have JVs this year so the varsity teams are huge.

The coaches of tonight's game asked us to ref a "fifth" quarter after the game was over to allow the players to play who had not. This is not in the rules (as it once was).

Should we do so? In baseball, if we reach the end of the game by mercy rule, we are supposed to go home because of liability issues.

Rita

[refnrev]

I probably would.

[Nevadaref]

I would simply tell them that I had plans that night and had to go.

If they wanted playing time for those kids, then they should have put them in during the four quarters of play.

[JRutledge]

Was it in your contact? If it was not, then I do not see how you are obligated to work extra time.

Peace

[derwil]

Uh no.

Don't you have plans with your wife/husband/dog??

[JugglingReferee]

If your board has never discussed the situation, then I would do it if I had nothing else scheduled and my P was willing and available as well.

Otherwise, I wouldn't stay.

But then again, I find it hard to say no when kids playing sports in concerned.

[aschramm]

This is from my first-year experience with baseball, so take it for what it's worth...

I've done fall games which are almost like scrimmages. We usually just go by a time limit or 7 innings, whichever come first. If we're done with 7 innings and some time left, and the coaches ask if we can go another inning, I'll discuss it with my partner, but I'm usually fine with staying. This is my first year, so in a way I want to give a good impression that I'll help more than what is needed.

On the other hand, if you're playing any sanctioned game where there's a winner/loser, and you have contracts for those games, I'd recommend not staying around. Liability is a big issue (injuries for you or the players). And if you were having any troubles with parents, you'll probably get even bigger ones when you're technically working a quarter for free.

But again, just my $.02

[jdmara]

Some of the freshman contests around here play a fifth "quarter". It's written in our contracts and we get paid extra. If it's not written in my contract, then I'm not doing it for liability reasons.

-Josh

[Camron Rust]

There are often 5 quarter games at the Freshman Level in this area. Usually, the school has prearranged the 5th quarter with the assignor and a note to that effect is included with the assignment. 5 quarter games are paid at a higher rate. In the event it is not and the school wishes to hold a 5th quarter, we are to work it and report it to the assignor in order to receive the proper pay.

I'd suggest asking your assignor about such 5th quarter games.

[mbyron]

We have no 5 quarter games in this area, AFAIK. I would not do it for liability reasons.

[chartrusepengui]

Only 5th quarters we do must be written in the contract and the pay must be equal to or greater than 1/4th of a regular game fee.