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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 08:27am
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3-Person Mechanics - NFHS

Mechanics change year-to-year ("move to improve").....but Fed changes only occur every two years....however, state associations can include their adaptations, if they choose. Here's my question:

In 3-Person.....Does the Lead official have three-point try responsibilities from the near sideline corner to the near free-throw line extended?
I think this is a FALSE statement.

However, some claim it's TRUE because mechanically, crews pre-game the sitch as Lead will assist C or T "in transition". The reference, 3.3.4 (B5), in the Fed Officials Manual is vague and to the best that I can interpret it.....I'd say the statement is FALSE. Anyone want to give me their take?
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 08:30am
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I believe on a long pass or something like that, the lead can signal a three, but that is something discussed by the crew in pre game
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 08:44am
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That is a NCAA womens mechanic, but yes on a fast break the Lead can signal that it is a 3 try until the Trail can pick it up and then the Lead goes back to their normal court coverage!
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 08:59am
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In 3-Person.....Does the Lead official have three-point try responsibilities from the near sideline corner to the near free-throw line extended?
I think this is a FALSE statement.
3 person mechanics test #53. The answer key lists it as true and the reference as 3.3.4.B.3.

That said I will not put True. The question does not say 'in transition'. Also if you are in transition, it wouldn't just be the Lead's responsibility up until the free-throw line. It would probably go up even higher on the three-point arc.
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 09:07am
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3 person mechanics test #53. The answer key lists it as true and the reference as 3.3.4.B.3.

That said I will not put True. The question does not say 'in transition'. Also if you are in transition, it wouldn't just be the Lead's responsibility up until the free-throw line. It would probably go up even higher on the three-point arc.

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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 10:04am
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Mechanics are guides they are not absolutes in most situations. This is not the primary responsibility of the Lead, but could be a secondary coverage for the Lead if need be. This is something mostly common in transition where the Lead is much closer to the ball and has a much better angle. But this would mostly be a rare situation to be used.

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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 10:12am
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Mechanics change year-to-year ("move to improve").....but Fed changes only occur every two years....however, state associations can include their adaptations, if they choose. Here's my question:

In 3-Person.....Does the Lead official have three-point try responsibilities from the near sideline corner to the near free-throw line extended?
I think this is a FALSE statement.

However, some claim it's TRUE because mechanically, crews pre-game the sitch as Lead will assist C or T "in transition". The reference, 3.3.4 (B5), in the Fed Officials Manual is vague and to the best that I can interpret it.....I'd say the statement is FALSE. Anyone want to give me their take?
Lead has no primary responsibility outside the arc.
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Old Tue Dec 09, 2008, 12:10pm
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3 person mechanics test #53. The answer key lists it as true and the reference as 3.3.4.B.3.

That said I will not put True. The question does not say 'in transition'. Also if you are in transition, it wouldn't just be the Lead's responsibility up until the free-throw line. It would probably go up even higher on the three-point arc.
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This is interesting because I did my first varsity game of the season (working a schedule heavy on 2-man sub-varsity with some 3-man varsity mixed in). I've got two separate court-coverage charts, one showing lead having primary coverage of this area, one showing the primary coverage area ending at the 3-point arc.

I asked my partners how they would call it as they've done 3-man more than I have and they suggested that you be aware of (i.e., secondary coverage) the shot deep in the corner (agreeing, I think, with the discussion here so far), but don't get caught out there if the action swings back quickly to the interior. They also suggested that you indicate a three-point shot, make sure it's picked up by C or T, then drop it without indicating a good basket.
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 09:20am
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They also suggested that you indicate a three-point shot, make sure it's picked up by C or T, then drop it without indicating a good basket.
My personal preference, but if I indicate a 3-point attempt -- even from the Lead -- I'm putting up the touchdown signal.
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 10:44am
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My personal preference, but if I indicate a 3-point attempt -- even from the Lead -- I'm putting up the touchdown signal.
I'm not...I give the 3 signal to help my partners but I'm not signalling the successful attempt. I getting my eyes down and in the paint for rebounding action.
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 11:02am
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I'm not...I give the 3 signal to help my partners but I'm not signalling the successful attempt. I getting my eyes down and in the paint for rebounding action.
I try to follow the recommended mechanic, also.
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 11:37am
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I'm not...I give the 3 signal to help my partners but I'm not signalling the successful attempt. I getting my eyes down and in the paint for rebounding action.
What rebounding? It's a successful attempt. And even if there is rebounding action, you can't do both? Wouldn't you do both if you were the T or C? What am I missing? What's the connection? Why can't I stop asking questions?
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 11:39am
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I try to follow the recommended mechanic, also.
I think that it is the recommended mechanic to give the TD signal, once you have given the attempt signal, regardless of your position on the floor.
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Old Wed Dec 10, 2008, 11:41am
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I think that it is the recommended mechanic to give the TD signal, once you have given the attempt signal, regardless of your position on the floor.
I think that's just 2-whistle, where the Lead actually scores the three.
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