Under the basket throw in position.....

[jdw3018]

Moving the player out away from the lane puts them at an advantage or disadvantage that is not intended.

Many teams have very precise plays they run depending on where the throw-in spot is. This different spot could give an advantage, or be a disadvantage, to a team that has a specific play to be run from the end line under their own basket.

Getting throw-in spots correct is a pet peeve of mine. Even in the backcourt I want to give the ball at as close a spot as possible to where it should be. Nothing irks me about a partner more (well, maybe other than one who has no interest in giving decent effort) than refusing to put the ball in play where it should be...

[Scratch85]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Getting throw-in spots correct is a pet peeve of mine.

And that brings up the question of where they should be. Officials Manual Diagram 3-6 has 4 throw in spots along the baseline between the lane and 3-point arc. 2 throw in spots along the sidelines approximately even with the third block and the top of the key.

IMO these are the throw in spots and an official should choose the one closest to the violation or foul. If it is a division line throw in, you go to the division line. Otherwise you use one of the 24 spots identified (or at least close)

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Scratch85

And that brings up the question of where they should be. Officials Manual Diagram 3-6 has 4 throw in spots along the baseline between the lane and 3-point arc. 2 throw in spots along the sidelines approximately even with the third block and the top of the key.

IMO these are the throw in spots and an official should choose the one closest to the violation or foul. If it is a division line throw in, you go to the division line. Otherwise you use one of the 24 spots identified (or at least close)

Look in the penalty sections throughout rule 9, for a rule reference. The spot is the "out of bounds spot nearest the violation." The diagram you're referencing is just an illustration showing how to determine it.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Look in the penalty sections throughout rule 9, for a rule reference. The spot is the "out of bounds spot nearest the violation." The diagram you're referencing is just an illustration showing how to determine it.

That is true for b/c violations as well, correct? I'm seeing the violation occur at the 3 pt line & the ball is being put in play at the division line...

How should we handle it if you make the b/c call, indicate the throw-in spot & become the new lead but your partner makes their own throw-in spot??

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

How should we handle it if you make the b/c call, indicate the throw-in spot & become the new lead but your partner makes their own throw-in spot??

Depends how far off your partner's spot is. That's a "HTBT", IMO.

Say it's inside the 3 pt line & they go back to the division line or at the FT line extended & they go to the division line... how would you handle that?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

Say it's inside the 3 pt line & they go back to the division line or at the FT line extended & they go to the division line... how would you handle that?

That's a big enough difference that I might have a quick conference and say, "I wanted the throw-in over there."

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Ch1town

That is true for b/c violations as well, correct? I'm seeing the violation occur at the 3 pt line & the ball is being put in play at the division line...

How should we handle it if you make the b/c call, indicate the throw-in spot & become the new lead but your partner makes their own throw-in spot??

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Depends how far off your partner's spot is. That's a "HTBT", IMO.

Agree, no need for a pissing contest unless the difference is more than a few feet (most BC violations occur within a few feet of the division line).

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Scratch85

And that brings up the question of where they should be. Officials Manual Diagram 3-6 has 4 throw in spots along the baseline between the lane and 3-point arc. 2 throw in spots along the sidelines approximately even with the third block and the top of the key.

IMO these are the throw in spots and an official should choose the one closest to the violation or foul. If it is a division line throw in, you go to the division line. Otherwise you use one of the 24 spots identified (or at least close)

Just because there are 4 arrows (and 2 arrows) doesn't mean those are the only spots.

[Scratch85]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Just because there are 4 arrows (and 2 arrows) doesn't mean those are the only spots.

I agree with this. But I also don't believe in picking my spot on the corners. It is too much of a disadvantage for the team that did not violate. If it is on the baseline, I typically pick my spot at about the 3-point arc. If it is on the sideline, I move up 6-8 feet (maybe more)

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Scratch85

I agree with this. But I also don't believe in picking my spot on the corners. It is too much of a disadvantage for the team that did not violate. If it is on the baseline, I typically pick my spot at about the 3-point arc. If it is on the sideline, I move up 6-8 feet (maybe more)

My advice? Take it out where it goes out. If that's in a corner, so be it. There's no need to set aside the rules here.

Unless, of course, your assigner wants you to "help" out the offensive team by giving them a more advantageous throwin spot than the rules provide for.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

My advice? Take it out where it goes out. If that's in a corner, so be it. There's no need to set aside the rules here.

Unless, of course, your assigner wants you to "help" out the offensive team by giving them a more advantageous throwin spot than the rules provide for.

I spotted the baseline corner twice last night. Eventhough the team had lined up for a "Stack" between the lane and the sideline. I told the in-thrower to stand in my spot and they ran the same play, anyway.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mick

I spotted the baseline corner twice last night. Eventhough the team had lined up for a "Stack" between the lane and the sideline. I told the in-thrower to stand in my spot and they ran the same play, anyway.

One of my favorite events: When I set up a spot throwin anywhere on the baseline except right on the lane line. A1 almost always heads for that nearest spot to the basket, and I have to (verbally) pull them out to me.

I found it's best to simply tell them how many steps to move.

"35, take 3 steps towards me." One of these days I may start that with "Simon says."

[Scratch85]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

My advice? Take it out where it goes out. If that's in a corner, so be it.

I will take your advice. In the manual Diagram 3-8 shows a ball being put in play outside the arc. Thanks for the advice, I will get it right from now on.

[mick]

Originally Posted by Scratch85

I will take your advice. In the manual Diagram 3-8 shows a ball being put in play outside the arc. Thanks for the advice, I will get it right from now on.

Scratch85,
In a 2-whistle game, there remains a judgment we may have to make.

Do we administer inside or outside ? There are positives and negatives with either choice