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JRutledge Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:01am

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Originally Posted by refnrev (Post 556883)
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It varies by school.

Or conference.

Peace

refnrev Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:02am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 556884)
Or conference.

Peace

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Good point... but not so much in this part of the state.

JRutledge Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:03am

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Originally Posted by refnrev (Post 556885)
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Good point... but not so much in this part of the state.

That is why I said "Or." ;)

Peace

CaRef5 Wed Dec 10, 2008 03:26am

in my association in my the Bay Area they only give 3-man to West Catholic League (the really good schools), the rest are 2-man, during the regular season but during the post season i believe they are all 3-man. and of course state playoff are 3-man

Nevadaref Wed Dec 10, 2008 03:43am

Regular season:
Boys and Girls varsity is 3-man for the largest two classes.
The smallest two classes are 2-man.
Sub-varsity is 2-man.

Post-season:
All 3-man.

MidMadness Wed Dec 10, 2008 08:05am

New Jersey
 
95% of HS games use 2 man......5% being Prep games, St. Anthony's, St. Patrick's boys games. This during regular season.......As post season rolls along they go to 3 man for later state games.

fullor30 Wed Dec 10, 2008 09:15am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 556573)
Illinois uses 3 Person for all post season games Boy's and Girl's basketball.

I have heard rumors of some places using 2 Person still, but it is not very common. Every league or tournament I have worked is 3 Person for all varsity games.

There are even places that go 3 Person for lower level games. This is not common, but it has taken place.

Peace



Regarding two man Varsity, it's more than a rumor, the independent conference around Chicago does two man, yet for some bigger game matchups they go to 3 man??? I have a two man date coming up.

Chicago Public League is also two man, although the one game I did a few years ago was 3 man.

rockchalk jhawk Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:17pm

Kansas
 
All three man for varsity contests, although I have heard rumor that there might be a league or two in far western Kansas that uses 2-person crews still, but I think more because of availibility of officials than anything. Pay around here is $90-$100 per official for a B/G varsity double header.

Some JV/F and even MS locations are going to three man crews, which has been welcomed with open arms by the guys that work those games.

All post season is 3 person.

ajs8207 Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:27pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 556884)
Or conference.

Peace

I guess a better way to put it is does the JV crew of 2 get paid more per person than the varsity crew of 3? I believe that's what is stopping us from going to 3 person crews for varsity, as the JV crew would get paid more per person than the varsity.

JRutledge Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:33pm

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Originally Posted by ajs8207 (Post 557025)
I guess a better way to put it is does the JV crew of 2 get paid more per person than the varsity crew of 3? I believe that's what is stopping us from going to 3 person crews for varsity, as the JV crew would get paid more per person than the varsity.

That is not the case in Illinois. Unless you agree to that as an official (I do not think I would do such a thing) you are paid per person. Now the rates around here usually are very similar with the intent of paying a 3 Person Crew. Some people work double headers, so that does not always apply when talking about a "per game" fee. I know we do not get two separate game fees in those cases.

Peace

stripes2255 Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:37pm

Nope
 
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Originally Posted by ODJ (Post 556576)
Yoncalla?

South Coast. I know where Yoncalla is but have never called their games

PIAA REF Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:40pm

Pennsylvania
 
I work in Northwest PA, We use a 3-whistle crew on all varsity contest both girls and boys. For sub-varsity we use a 2 whistle crew. I believe this is the same throughout the whole state and not just my area. Also our pay scale in my area is 63 for varsity, 45 (I think for JV) 40 for single game (7-9), 69 for Jr High double header 2 games. 100 for Triple Header. Fees will vary throughout the state.

dbking Wed Dec 10, 2008 01:20pm

Wizard of OZ
 
In KS all six classes of tournament are 3 person games.

In larger areas and larger classes, we use 3 person for GV and BV contests. All lower level games are 2 person mechanics.

I know of no Class 5 or 6 school that uses 2 person anywhere in state. I know in western KS, the small schools still use 2 person crews for BV and GV games.

No matter the size, all KC, Topeka and Wichita schools use 3 person crews.

HoopsRefJunior Wed Dec 10, 2008 02:56pm

3-person crews
 
Our Georgia group attempts to assign 3-person for all levels (middle school through high school varsity). On our busiest dates, we may be forced to assign 2-person for some sub-varsity games (lack of available officials). Our officials understand that their 3-person pay for sub-varsity games will be 2-person crew pay divided by 3 officials. We have found that the training of officials is more efficient by starting people off with 3-person mechanics.

All varsity games in Georgia are 3-person.

RookieDude Wed Dec 10, 2008 03:07pm

Eastern Washington:

All Varsity and sub-Varsity HS boys 3-Whistle 1 game @ $48 plus travel per night (Unless we do a Frosh game prior to the Varsity game...$28 extra)


Middle School 2-Whistle. 2 games @ $40 per = $80


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