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Old Wed Dec 03, 2008, 10:57am
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The initial contact could be incidental -- looks like player is going for the ball. However, you *could* call a foul on that -- but it is very difficult to see real-time and from the angle in the video. The second contact is easier because the player grabs his face -- an indicator 99% of the time that he was hit in the eye (1% of the time they are faking b*%tards!)

If there is the possibility of a flagrant foul we have to go to the monitor, so when the officials go to the monitor they might see the first contact, but they cannot go back and call it a foul at that point. But they can confirm that his reaction was flagrant and toss him, which is what he did.
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