Miami/FSU ejection??

cowbyfan1 · #1 (**permalink**) Tue Sep 06, 2005, 01:58am

I heard a Miami player was ejected tonight in their game against FSU. What happened? Cannot find anything on it.

JugglingReferee · #2 (**permalink**) Tue Sep 06, 2005, 03:05am

There was an ejection. I was flipping between that game and the CFL Labour Day Classic and saw the tail end of the R facing TV.

I think there were 3 fouls on the play. The R had someone out of TV range feeding him the #s. IMO, he did not look like a veteran R during that sequence.

Dommer1 · #3 (**permalink**) Tue Sep 06, 2005, 03:47am

3 fouls with 3 numbers? I would absolutely need help to make that announcement!

TXMike · #4 (**permalink**) Tue Sep 06, 2005, 04:40am

There was about 10 minutes left in 2d qtr. Miami punted. The FSU flier on F''s (FSU #4) was blocked and knocked down and violently into the returner, Miami #26 at the Miami 30. Ball bounced off #26's helmet and forward to the 35 where a Miami player fell on it. Both the B and F threw flags at the are where the punt returner was. It was announced that there was KCI on "#26 of the kicking team" and a dead ball personal foul with an ejection on #34 of the kicking team. It was not in TV camera view but apparently #34 threw a punch at someone away from the play.

I am still trying to figure out how they could call the KCI since #4 was clearly blocked into the returner. I can understand the B missing it but the ball was coming down into the middle zone so F had nothing to do but watch the flier all the way.

Snake~eyes · #5 (**permalink**) Tue Sep 06, 2005, 10:35am

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Originally posted by TXMike
There was about 10 minutes left in 2d qtr. Miami punted. The FSU flier on F''s (FSU #4) was blocked and knocked down and violently into the returner, Miami #26 at the Miami 30. Ball bounced off #26's helmet and forward to the 35 where a Miami player fell on it. Both the B and F threw flags at the are where the punt returner was. It was announced that there was KCI on "#26 of the kicking team" and a dead ball personal foul with an ejection on #34 of the kicking team. It was not in TV camera view but apparently #34 threw a punch at someone away from the play.

I am still trying to figure out how they could call the KCI since #4 was clearly blocked into the returner. I can understand the B missing it but the ball was coming down into the middle zone so F had nothing to do but watch the flier all the way.

They never showed the replay or any video of #34, so it is unclear what he did to be ejected.

As for the KCI, I think they just "kicked" it, no pun(t) intended.

TXMike · #6 (**permalink**) Tue Sep 06, 2005, 11:04am

Miami Herald newspaper said the player was ejected for a punch.

AndrewMcCarthy · #7 (**permalink**) Tue Sep 06, 2005, 12:36pm

Anyone see the flag thrown for the player taking his helmet off then they waved it off saying it came off during the play?

Didn't look like it to me- I think the R made the decision that they weren't going to make that call at that point of the game.

Thoughts?

mcrowder · #8 (**permalink**) Tue Sep 06, 2005, 01:29pm

I saw that - and I could see it both ways. The helmet did come loose. Not OFF, but loose, and the kid couldn't see. He was apparently being taunted at the same time. Don't blame him for removing the helmet to see if he was about to get hit... but I didn't think it was coming completely off on it's own.

JugglingReferee · #9 (**permalink**) Tue Sep 06, 2005, 03:43pm

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Originally posted by Dommer1
3 fouls with 3 numbers? I would absolutely need help to make that announcement!

You must not do basketball.

BB officials must know 2 #s when calling double fouls. What's one more #?

Do you remember your phone number? That's 7 numbers, 10 if you count the area code.

Dommer1 · #10 (**permalink**) Wed Sep 07, 2005, 02:14am

But my phone number has been pretty much the same number the last 6 years, and even I can learn to remember a number by heart given 6 years.

Snake~eyes · #11 (**permalink**) Wed Sep 07, 2005, 08:48am

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Originally posted by JugglingReferee

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Originally posted by Dommer1
3 fouls with 3 numbers? I would absolutely need help to make that announcement!

You must not do basketball.

BB officials must know 2 #s when calling double fouls. What's one more #?

Do you remember your phone number? That's 7 numbers, 10 if you count the area code.

Bad comparison. If you have a double foul in basketball, you really only need to know two numbers and the fact that you had a double foul, pretty easy since you saw what happened and you made the call.

If you have 3 fouls in football, neither of which you have called, you're going to need some help. You'll need to remember 3 numbers and the fouls associated with each number, not so easy if you ask me.