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Old Wed Dec 03, 2008, 09:04am
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What is the wording of rule 10-1-2?
10-1-2e: (After the 10 minute mark...) Have identical numbers on team members and/or players.

My take:

While having both 0 and 00 on the team member list is a violation of 3-4-3d, there's no penalty listed in that section.

0 and 00 are not identical. The second becomes illegal only when that player enters the game -- and it's then charged to the coach. (10-5-4)

Suppose the roster had a number 66 on it (or one team member put a "memorial patch" with a number on it on his/her uniform). Would we penalize immediately? No -- only when (if) that player entered. Same with 0 an 00.
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Old Wed Dec 03, 2008, 12:47pm
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10-1-2e: (After the 10 minute mark...) Have identical numbers on team members and/or players.

My take:

While having both 0 and 00 on the team member list is a violation of 3-4-3d, there's no penalty listed in that section.

0 and 00 are not identical. The second becomes illegal only when that player enters the game -- and it's then charged to the coach. (10-5-4)

Suppose the roster had a number 66 on it (or one team member put a "memorial patch" with a number on it on his/her uniform). Would we penalize immediately? No -- only when (if) that player entered. Same with 0 an 00.
Yep.

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Old Wed Dec 03, 2008, 02:08pm
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10-15 players, 35 numbers to pick from.....just remove 0 and 00 from the list of legal numbers? How many 0 or 00's do you guys really see out there?

In 14 years, I've seen 0 once.

Not counting the one JV girl game where she was a 10 the first half and came out as a 0 for the second. (The iron-on 1 fell off). The official had us do the white athletic tape trick to make a 1.
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Old Wed Dec 03, 2008, 02:36pm
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10-15 players, 35 numbers to pick from.....just remove 0 and 00 from the list of legal numbers? How many 0 or 00's do you guys really see out there?

In 14 years, I've seen 0 once.

Not counting the one JV girl game where she was a 10 the first half and came out as a 0 for the second. (The iron-on 1 fell off). The official had us do the white athletic tape trick to make a 1.
I have seen the number multiple times over the years. You do not see them every game, but you see them or even every season, but you will see them from time to time. And how many times we see the number is really not relevant if you ask me. This is allowed and we deal with it.

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Old Wed Dec 03, 2008, 07:32pm
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Suppose the roster had a number 66 on it ...
Would we penalize immediately?
Is there a specific rule prohibiting the team member list from containing the number 66?
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Old Wed Dec 03, 2008, 07:55pm
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Is there a specific rule prohibiting the team member list from containing the number 66?
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Old Wed Dec 03, 2008, 08:07pm
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Really? Please provide the citation.
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Old Wed Dec 03, 2008, 08:42pm
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My bad. I thought you were asking a rhetorical question. The point is that 0 and 00, while both legal numbers, are specifically forbidden from being on the same list. Other illegal number are not specifically forbidden from the list.
Is that the point? IOW, is it ok for a player to wear 66 every night, so long as he doesn't play?
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Old Wed Dec 03, 2008, 09:00pm
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Nice number, No playing time!!!
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Old Thu Dec 04, 2008, 08:48am
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My bad. I thought you were asking a rhetorical question. The point is that 0 and 00, while both legal numbers, are specifically forbidden from being on the same list. Other illegal number are not specifically forbidden from the list.
Is that the point? IOW, is it ok for a player to wear 66 every night, so long as he doesn't play?
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Exactly. You have correctly comprehended the situation.
Why can't A 66 enter the game? It's just an illegal number... B shoots two ft's and gets the ball and play on?
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Why can't A 66 enter the game? It's just an illegal number... B shoots two ft's and gets the ball and play on?
Don't forget about the coach taking a sit for the rest of the game.
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Old Thu Dec 04, 2008, 11:20am
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Why can't A 66 enter the game? It's just an illegal number... B shoots two ft's and gets the ball and play on?
Should have said can a player wear 66 every night without penalty, so long as he doesn't play?
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Old Wed Dec 03, 2008, 09:00pm
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My bad. I thought you were asking a rhetorical question. The point is that 0 and 00, while both legal numbers, are specifically forbidden from being on the same list. Other illegal number are not specifically forbidden from the list.
Is that the point? IOW, is it ok for a player to wear 66 every night, so so long as he doesn't play?
Exactly. You have correctly comprehended the situation.
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Old Wed Dec 03, 2008, 09:24pm
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Exactly. You have correctly comprehended the situation.
Shoulda known better. You don't ask a lot of rhetorical questions, do you?
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