Time Out

[CoachP]

A1 dribbles in to a trap at half court, picks up dribble, and is closely guarded by B1 and B2. A1 realizes she is getting close to a 5 second call, so she gathers up the ball under one arm against her torso and makes the "T" sign and requests time out.

Before the trail gets air in the whistle to grant the time out, B1 has tapped the ball loose where B2 would have an easy layup the other way.

Continue play? Grant the time out? IW? Who's ball? Arrow?

[mbyron]

Grant the time-out. "Coach, I granted the time-out before the ball came loose."

[mick]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Grant the time-out. "Coach, I granted the time-out before the ball came loose."

...or...
Coach, I recognized the request before ....

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by CoachP

A1 dribbles in to a trap at half court, picks up dribble, and is closely guarded by B1 and B2. A1 realizes she is getting close to a 5 second call, so she gathers up the ball under one arm against her torso and makes the "T" sign and requests time out.

Before the trail gets air in the whistle to grant the time out, B1 has tapped the ball loose where B2 would have an easy layup the other way.

Continue play? Grant the time out? IW? Who's ball? Arrow?

This is a TO. The TO was requested when A has the player possession inbounds. I don't care if B had put the ball through the basket. It is still a TO.

[CoachP]

Slight change, instead of B1 knocking the ball loose in the OP, B1 pushes A1 while playing the ball and knocks the ball loose.

Foul? Ignore the foul?

[mick]

Originally Posted by CoachP

Slight change, instead of B1 knocking the ball loose in the OP, B1 pushes A1 while playing the ball and knocks the ball loose.

Foul? Ignore the foul?

Whether the foul happened or not, that is another way to keep the Defense's coach quiet.

"Coach, I recognized the request ... before the foul...."

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by CoachP

Slight change, instead of B1 knocking the ball loose in the OP, B1 pushes A1 while playing the ball and knocks the ball loose.

Foul? Ignore the foul?

HTBT. I've passed on slight pushes before. But if there is a trap, and B1 pushes A1, now the contact has a larger impact, and the foul should be called.

Edit: if there is a TO request before the foul, it is still a TO, and no foul.

Edit 2: looks like mick has the jump on me all morning.

[CoachP]

Rule Refs? Casebook plays? (On any of my two plays)

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by CoachP

Rule Refs? Casebook plays? (On any of my two plays)

Events should be handled in the order they occurred. If the TO request happened prior to the push, the player gets the TO. You're not really asking a rules related question here.