Offensive Foul Switch question

[PIAA REF]

In Pa this will be the first year that we will be following National Federation Rules reguarding not doing the Long switch. Is there any guides to help me understand this better. Does the calling official always administer the throw in when there is and Offensive foul called in the front court? I understand that if lead calls the foul he would report, then go back and administer the throw-in but what if T or C has the call. So they then administer the throw-in? or does L push.

[SmokeEater]

The easiest method I have found is for the official calling the foul now becomes or will stay at the trail position following the penalty administration.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by PIAA REF

In Pa this will be the first year that we will be following National Federation Rules reguarding not doing the Long switch. Is there any guides to help me understand this better. Does the calling official always administer the throw in when there is and Offensive foul called in the front court? I understand that if lead calls the foul he would report, then go back and administer the throw-in but what if T or C has the call. So they then administer the throw-in? or does L push.

Think of the administration being exactly the same if there had been a violation. If L calls the foul, they report, then put the ball back in play at the spot. If T or C calls the foul, the old L/new T would administer the throw-in and "bump" the calling official to their new spot.

Does that help?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

The easiest method I have found is for the official calling the foul now becomes or will stay at the trail position following the penalty administration.

Hmmmm...not true. The new T handles all throw-ins in the back court. So if the current L calls the TC foul, he/she will step out, report the foul, and then step back and administer the throw-in (some people call that a V-back). If the T or C call the TC foul, they will report it and then head down to the other end - L who is becoming T will move to the spot and administer the throw-in.

So if T calls it, T becomes L, C stays at C, and L becomes T and handles throw-in on the same side of the court he/she was on.

If C calls it, C becomes L, T becomes new C, and L becomes new T and handles the throw-in on the opposite side of the court he/she was on.

Originally Posted by SmokeEater

The easiest method I have found is for the official calling the foul now becomes or will stay at the trail position following the penalty administration.

Maybe it's a area thing, but 'round here the T (old L) administers all b/c throw-ins.

No long switches on b/c fouls. Say the C calls TC tableside, well the C now pushes to L & the (old L) new T z's over to administer the throw-in.

[Spence]

1st yr ref working 2-man . I'm trail. Which of the following situations would be considered "long switch?"

1. Defensive foul in backcourt - no free throws.
2. Defensive foul near division line - no free throws.
3. Offensive foul in front court under basket while ball is still in backcourt.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Spence

1st yr ref working 2-man . I'm trail. Which of the following situations would be considered "long switch?"

1. Defensive foul in backcourt - no free throws.
2. Defensive foul near division line - no free throws.
3. Offensive foul in front court under basket while ball is still in backcourt.

If the throw-in is in the inbounding team's BC, then any switch would be a "long switch" (so some choose not to switch, aka "no long-switch, " depending on the mechanics you use).

If the throw-in in in the inbounding team's FC, or there's a FT, then switch as normal.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Think of the administration being exactly the same if there had been a violation.

Bingo.

(Slight disclaimer: this is NOT true beginning this season for states that use IAABO 3-whistle mechanics.)

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Bingo.

(Slight disclaimer: this is NOT true beginning this season for states that use IAABO 3-whistle mechanics.)

Even though we are an IAABO State (per the President of CHSAA) we will continue to go tableside after reporting this season

but happy as I have no problem communicating with coaches & prefer going TS so I don't have to whack anybody for hollaring across the court for an explaination.

[BillyMac]

Here in the "Constitution State", we use IAABO mechanics, almost all two person mechanics. We do use a few non-IAABO mechanics, i.e., no long switches when foul is called in the backcourt and there is no change of possession or direction.

I no longer have access to NFHS mechanics. What is the actual wording for no long switches in a two person game?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

What is the actual wording for no long switches in a two person game?

"Switch on every foul."

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

So if T calls it, T becomes L, C stays at C, and L becomes T and handles throw-in on the same side of the court he/she was on.

If C calls it, C becomes L, T becomes new C, and L becomes new T and handles the throw-in on the opposite side of the court he/she was on.

Say the C calls something on the T/L's half of the court (illegal screen or someone grabbing a cutter for instance). Then we have the 'C' going back to C and T --> new L and L --> new T?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Say the C calls something on the T/L's half of the court (illegal screen or someone grabbing a cutter for instance). Then we have the 'C' going back to C and T --> new L and L --> new T?

Say the C calls something on T/L's half of the court (travelling or swinging the elbows for instance). What would we do?

Same answer.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Say the C calls something on T/L's half of the court (travelling or swinging the elbows for instance). What would we do?

Make an exception to Rocky's guidelines.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Say the C calls something on T/L's half of the court (travelling or swinging the elbows for instance). What would we do?

Same answer.

Ask him/her why they are looking over there in the first place!