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Old Sun Oct 19, 2008, 07:18pm
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Why Does A 24/7 Store Have Doors With Locks If It's Never Closed ???

I wanted to followup on a thread started by Scrapper1 on Wednesday, October 8, 2008, at 9:09pm, but found the thread closed.

It took me all week to find enough time to research Scrapper's "unannounced" change. BktBallRef, and Nevadaref, were correct, it was announced, as an editorial change, it just wasn't "publicized", and I agree with Scrapper1 that it was an important change that should have gotten more publicity. In my research, I came up with the old rules regarding resumption of play, and the new rules, for comparison. Here's what I came up with:

NFHS 2006-07: 4-38-1: The resumption-of-play procedure is used to prevent delay in putting the ball in play following a time-out or intermission as in 7-5-1 and 8-1-2. The procedure results in a violation instead of a technical foul for initial delay in specific situations.

NFHS 2006-07: 7-5-1: After a time-out (as in 7-4-4) or the intermission between any quarter (as in 6-2-3), the resumption-of-play procedure is used to prevent delay. The timer will sound the authorized warning signal and final signal. The administering official will then sound the whistle to indicate play will resume. In each situation:
a. The ball shall be put in play if Team A is ready or it shall be placed on the floor.
b. The throw-in count shall begin and if a violation occurs, the procedure will be repeated for Team B.
c. Following a violation by one team only, if that team continues to delay when authorized to make a throw-in, it is a technical foul.
d. Following a violation by both teams, any further delay by either team is a technical foul.

NFHS 2007-08 Major Editorial Changes
4-31; 7-5-1: Clarified when the resumption of play procedure is in effect.

NFHS 2007-08: 4-38-1: The resumption-of-play procedure is used to prevent delay in putting the ball in play when a thowin team does not make a thrower available or following a time-out or intermission (unless either team is not on the court to start the second half) as in 7-5-1 and 8-1-2. The procedure results in a violation instead of a technical foul for initial delay in specific situations.

NFHS 2007-08: 7-5-1: When a team does not make a thrower available - after a time-out (as in 7-4-4) or the intermission between any quarter (as in 6-2-3), the resumption-of-play procedure is used to prevent delay. The administering official will sound the whistle to indicate play will resume. In each situation:
a. The ball shall be put in play if Team A is ready or it shall be placed on the floor.
b. The throw-in count shall begin and if a violation occurs, the procedure will be repeated for Team B.
c. Following a violation by one team only, if that team continues to delay when authorized to make a throw-in, it is a technical foul.
d. Following a violation by both teams, any further delay by either team is a technical foul.

Sorry it took so long.
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Old Sun Oct 19, 2008, 08:51pm
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The title of your thread reminded me of an old Steven Wright joke. He's going into a 7-11 when the clerk comes out and locks the doors behind him. Wright says to him, "Hey - the sign says you're open 24 hours." The clerk replies, "Sheesh - not in a row."
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Old Sun Oct 19, 2008, 08:58pm
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The title of your thread reminded me of an old Steven Wright joke. He's going into a 7-11 when the clerk comes out and locks the doors behind him. Wright says to him, "Hey - the sign says you're open 24 hours." The clerk replies, "Sheesh - not in a row."
I can't be sure, but I believe I stole it from Mr. Wright. Milton Berle was my hero.
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Old Sun Oct 19, 2008, 09:05pm
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Billy - you have me confused with someone who actually paid attention in math class. They were not my drawings.

The link I sent was for our local league and has some fairly amateurish training. It is not up for this level of this forum, but does have a good diagram in this case.
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Old Sun Oct 19, 2008, 09:11pm
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You have me confused with someone who actually paid attention in math class. They were not my drawings.
The Forum has a proper grammar guy, a proper spelling guy, and a geometric, trigometric, drawing guy. If it's not you, then who is it.

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Old Sun Oct 19, 2008, 09:44pm
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I wanted to followup on a thread started by Scrapper1 on Wednesday, October 8, 2008, at 9:09pm, but found the thread closed.

It took me all week to find enough time to research Scrapper's "unannounced" change. BktBallRef, and Nevadaref, were correct, it was announced, as an editorial change, it just wasn't "publicized", and I agree with Scrapper1 that it was an important change that should have gotten more publicity. In my research, I came up with the old rules regarding resumption of play, and the new rules, for comparison. Here's what I came up with:

NFHS 2006-07: 4-38-1: The resumption-of-play procedure is used to prevent delay in putting the ball in play following a time-out or intermission as in 7-5-1 and 8-1-2. The procedure results in a violation instead of a technical foul for initial delay in specific situations.

NFHS 2006-07: 7-5-1: After a time-out (as in 7-4-4) or the intermission between any quarter (as in 6-2-3), the resumption-of-play procedure is used to prevent delay. The timer will sound the authorized warning signal and final signal. The administering official will then sound the whistle to indicate play will resume. In each situation:
a. The ball shall be put in play if Team A is ready or it shall be placed on the floor.
b. The throw-in count shall begin and if a violation occurs, the procedure will be repeated for Team B.
c. Following a violation by one team only, if that team continues to delay when authorized to make a throw-in, it is a technical foul.
d. Following a violation by both teams, any further delay by either team is a technical foul.

NFHS 2007-08 Major Editorial Changes
4-31; 7-5-1: Clarified when the resumption of play procedure is in effect.

NFHS 2007-08: 4-38-1: The resumption-of-play procedure is used to prevent delay in putting the ball in play when a thowin team does not make a thrower available or following a time-out or intermission (unless either team is not on the court to start the second half) as in 7-5-1 and 8-1-2. The procedure results in a violation instead of a technical foul for initial delay in specific situations.

NFHS 2007-08: 7-5-1: When a team does not make a thrower available - after a time-out (as in 7-4-4) or the intermission between any quarter (as in 6-2-3), the resumption-of-play procedure is used to prevent delay. The administering official will sound the whistle to indicate play will resume. In each situation:
a. The ball shall be put in play if Team A is ready or it shall be placed on the floor.
b. The throw-in count shall begin and if a violation occurs, the procedure will be repeated for Team B.
c. Following a violation by one team only, if that team continues to delay when authorized to make a throw-in, it is a technical foul.
d. Following a violation by both teams, any further delay by either team is a technical foul.

Sorry it took so long.

Billy:

You are not MTD, Jr. (because there already is one, ), but I am going to make you an honoray chip off the old block, . You have done good my boy.

MTD, Sr.
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I am going to make you an honoray chip off the old block. You have done good my boy.
Should I change my Forum name to Grasshopper?
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Old Sun Oct 19, 2008, 10:03pm
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Should I change my Forum name to Grasshopper?

Grasshopper III. I and II are resevered for Mark, Jr. and Andy. Of course to them I am the 'old man' and the 'bald old geezer.' LOL

MTD, Sr.

P.S. Our OhioHSAA State Basketball Rules metings have started and soon Junior will be carrying his 'old man' for the rest of the season.
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The Forum has a proper grammar guy, a proper spelling guy, and a geometric, trigometric, drawing guy. If it's not you, then who is it.

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The grammer am guy I speeling ?
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Old Sun Oct 19, 2008, 10:21pm
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The grammer am guy I speeling ?
I'm not sure about that, but I do know that you're the geometric, trigometric, drawing guy. You can't fool me. I have proof.
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Old Mon Oct 20, 2008, 04:54pm
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You're right, they are completely unnecessary. Sort of like adding a random title, which adds nothing to the discussion, to every post one makes
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You're right, they are completely unnecessary. Sort of like adding a random title, which adds nothing to the discussion, to every post one makes
Cut the guy some slack. He's still in therapy for his compulsive image posting behavior
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Old Mon Oct 20, 2008, 10:36pm
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You're right, they are completely unnecessary. Sort of like adding a random title, which adds nothing to the discussion, to every post one makes
Thanks for noticing. It's hard work.
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