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Old Tue Aug 05, 2008, 08:49am
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So we have 2 votes for charge, 3 votes for block, and 2 votes for no-call. I think we have found a specimen of the very elusive 50-50-50 play!
I think it's closer to 40-60-40.
In case I wasn't clear, my vote's for no-call.
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Old Tue Aug 05, 2008, 09:44am
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I try to give a ruling based on my first viewing of these videos and then replay them to see if I would stick with my original call or not. The first time I played it I had a travel on green at the beginning. On the contact at the other end I would have called a block. On both plays the camera angle was poor, so difficult to tell for sure. Those would have been my "real time" calls. After replaying I think it probably was a travel, but I would ultimately be guessing. And on that block/charge call, I can't tell on that one for sure either. That angle simply doesn't provide for enough info to properly judge the play. It does look like the defender made it in the nick of time, but the contact also seems a lot less then what the bodies on the floor may indicate. But then again, the defender could have been moving in towards the ball handler as well.
I guess if I had a second chance to judge it I would go with a no-call because the contact was lighter than I thought and I simply can’t tell for sure from that angle.
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Old Tue Aug 05, 2008, 12:35pm
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The first time I played it I had a travel on green at the beginning.
Agreed...at 29 secs on the shot clock....not 100% from that video but there was a lot of footwork before the ball appeared to ever leave his hands. But, given the video angle/quality it is entirely possible that the player didn't actually have control of the ball which would allow such foot movement.
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It does look like the defender made it in the nick of time, but the contact also seems a lot less then what the bodies on the floor may indicate.
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I guess if I had a second chance to judge it I would go with a no-call because the contact was lighter than I thought and I simply can’t tell for sure from that angle.
For the defender yes, he clearly embellished the contact. But the offensive player was partially flipped over. He went up with his body roughly vertical but came down horizontal. There was certainly some contact.

It's only a matter of determining fault....and that is no certain task from this video. If the defender was late or moving toward the shooter, that has to be a block. If the defender was there in time, a no call could be warranted give then the defender took himself out of the play more than the contact did.
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