The Beauty of Summer Sight-Seeing

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

They also did not throw out the incidental contact rule either in this POE.

No, but they did except hand-checking from the purview of that rule.

Perhaps if you bothered to actually read the POE you would understand that.

"Hand-checking is not incidental contact"

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

"Hand-checking is not incidental contact"

Come on Nevadaref, tell us what you really think.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Come on Nevadaref, tell us what you really think.

Not my thought. That's a direct quote from the NFHS POE.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Not my thought. That's a direct quote from the NFHS POE.

Did the NFHS enlarge it, italicize it, and color it red? Nothing wrong with emphasizing a Point of Emphasis. Redundant? Yes. Did you help the NFHS to emphasis this. Yes, quite successfully.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

No, but they did except hand-checking from the purview of that rule.

Perhaps if you bothered to actually read the POE you would understand that.

"Hand-checking is not incidental contact"

You are right, hand-checking is not incidental contact and I never said it was. And a foul does not involve just touching either (according to the rules, actually in the rules portion that deals with this issue). Also hand-checking is also not described as simple touching either. Actually the NCAA describes Hand-Checking as “Impeding the Progress of a Player” in that Appendix that JR is so proud to post.

And it says in both codes, I repeat: "Contact that does not hinder the opponent from participating in normal defensive and offensive movements, shall be considered incidental."

So you cannot have hand-checking until someone has been affected in their movement. That sounds pretty clear if you ask me.

We can play this game all night long. The bottom line is the POE is not something that stands alone. It never does. They make POEs to highlight aspects of a rule that is not being applied. POEs are not rules changes or applied without any consideration of any other rules or description of the rules. You do not throw out the other aspects of the rule just because the POE says one thing. The NF and the NCAA want to highlight contact on the dribbler and wants more calls for that behavior. They are not changing basic rules applications, they are highlighting them. That is why they call them “Points of Emphasis.” There is a bigger picture here and it is not all about the POE only. It never is and it never will be.

Peace