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Old Tue Jul 01, 2008, 01:57pm
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Who in their right mind would hire somebody with no officiating background for this job?
The NBE....duh.

Somebody with an officiating background might try to enact something that the League wants nothing to do with...like having the officials actually follow the rules. Can't have that.
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Old Tue Jul 01, 2008, 02:51pm
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wow... please elaborate on the red part
In the NBE, traveling, palming....hell, fouls....aren't called by the rulebook. It's sports entertainment.

Anybody that thinks differently just isn't paying attention imo.
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Old Wed Jul 02, 2008, 12:52am
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I just read MG Johnson's official U.S. Army biography. He is a graduate of the U.S. Military Academy and appears to have been an engineering officier his entire Army career which not unusual for a person with his engineering background; I would venture to say that his engineering dicipline is civil engineering based on the positions he has held in the Army. A civilian equivilent position to his current Army position would be most likely be as a vice-president of engineering for a large manufacturing corporation. Which means that what he does for a living has absolutely no correlation to being in charge of sports officials. I have no doubt that he is very good at what he does in the military, but he has no qualifications for the job that the NBA has hired him to do.

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Old Sat Jul 05, 2008, 11:24pm
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I just read MG Johnson's official U.S. Army biography. He is a graduate of the U.S. Military Academy and appears to have been an engineering officier his entire Army career which not unusual for a person with his engineering background; I would venture to say that his engineering dicipline is civil engineering based on the positions he has held in the Army. A civilian equivilent position to his current Army position would be most likely be as a vice-president of engineering for a large manufacturing corporation. Which means that what he does for a living has absolutely no correlation to being in charge of sports officials. I have no doubt that he is very good at what he does in the military, but he has no qualifications for the job that the NBA has hired him to do.

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With his CE background, maybe he can get the Gyprock delivered on time.
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Old Sun Jul 06, 2008, 04:57am
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With his CE background, maybe he can get the Gyprock delivered on time.
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Old Sun Jul 06, 2008, 11:19am
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With his CE background, maybe he can get the Gyprock delivered on time.
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Old Sun Jul 06, 2008, 03:54pm
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I think I got it. The NBE traveling rule bleeds over from another high profile sport.


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1.2. Any player may declare a new rule at any point in the game . The player may do this audibly or silently depending on what zone the player is in.

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Old Wed Jul 02, 2008, 01:14am
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In the NBE, traveling, palming....hell, fouls....aren't called by the rulebook. It's sports entertainment.

Anybody that thinks differently just isn't paying attention imo.
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As a servicemember who has served under Gen Johnson. I too wondered where the qualifications came from. However, you do not have to know the job to managed it and the personnel within the system. Gen Johnson is smart articulate, and pays attention to detail. So, it is my belief that Gen Johnson will do a bang up job!! (good job) .

This is like saying you shouldn't make it to Division I because you have only been officiating for 5 years. Growth potential. JMO

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Old Wed Jul 02, 2008, 05:01am
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This is like saying you shouldn't make it to Division I because you have only been officiating for 5 years.
Say what?

Don't think so.....and your analogy is not even close.

Try...."This Is like saying that you can make it to Division 1 without ever having officiated a game in your life or knowing a damn thing about the game or it's rules."

Or maybe even closer...."This is like saying that you're qualified to replace Hank Nichols because you have been a good policeman."

And that makes perfect sense because the officiating in the NBE no longer has much to do with...well....officiating. They're getting closer to being traffic cops....keep the show moving and ignore the minor stuff.

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[quote=Jurassic Referee]
They're getting closer to being traffic cops....keep the show moving and ignore the minor stuff.

If this is the case, the policman can replace Hank Nichols according to you.
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Old Wed Jul 02, 2008, 11:53am
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They're getting closer to being traffic cops....keep the show moving and ignore the minor stuff.

If this is the case, the policeman can replace Hank Nichols according to you.
Nope, you're still failing to understand the basic premise of your own analogy.

According to me, a policeman could replace the current NBE director of officiating, whoverthehell that is. Or maybe some general who knows dickall about officiating......
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Old Mon Jul 07, 2008, 09:27am
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I don't trust Herr David Stern in anyway... He probably hired this guy without portfolio I may add just to keep guys like U.S. Arlen Spector from making a case and provide a show while investigating NBA Ref's and their inner departmental practices...

WHY? Because they probably DO have a lot of dirty laundry...!

It always happens that when these military guys retire from serving and get out it seems they ALWAYS have a top level job awaiting them even without experience...

Again, David Stern is a master at illusion and teflon strategies.
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It always happens that when these military guys retire from serving and get out it seems they ALWAYS have a top level job awaiting them even without experience...
If only....
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Old Wed Jul 02, 2008, 12:16pm
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1)80% of all called travels aren't really a travel.

2) You should actually read the rulebook before calling some of the things that you want called a travel. They get them right.

3) And when somebody is on a break away and they wanna do something a little fancy with the ball... let them do it. It's no advantage disadvantage.

4) Fouls? I think they get the advantage/disadvantage ones. Which is the same ones you get so I don't know why you are criticizing them.
1) Please point me to where I can find some actual proof that this statement is even close to being accurate. I await your response.

2)Bull Pucky! I know the basic NBE traveling rules. They ain't much different from the NCAA/FED rules. I also have eyes. I saw a player take FIVE(5) freaking steps on a dunk in a recent playoff game with no whistle. It just happens too damn often in the NBE to be a blown call either.

3) Exactly. Who cares if they take 5 steps? Nobody got an advantage. And it's entertainment anyway. And btw, thanks for making my point.

4) Fouls? I'm coming up to 50 years in basketball officiating. I don't have a clue what a foul is in the NBE. The only thing that I know is that they are consistently inconsistent when it comes to calling them.

You have your opinion. I have mine. And mine is that the NBE officials today could be the same ones that do the Globetrotter games. Who cares about little things like rules when the main focus isn't competition anymore but entertainment? And that isn't the officials' fault either. It's the fault of the people giving direction to those officials. And it's now coming back to bite those people in the azz....and they deserve it.
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