No Timeouts - end of the game

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Agree 100% to this point.
This I disagree with very strongly (and I believe that most experienced officials do too).
Only inform the coach when the team has used its final time-out. Other than that an official can have an awareness of how many and of what type remain, but stating such to a coach only exposes the official to a HUGE problem if he is mistaken.
Bottom line stick with "see it/hear it, grant it" and stay away from giving extra information to the coaches. Managers and assistants can communicate with the table for that. Afterall, that's their job.

Agree. We ain't scorekeepers. There's no need for us to do their job either.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Only inform the coach when the team has used its final time-out.

Amen.

[comical]

As a scorekeeper at a D-III school for the women's and men's teams, I will tell the officials when a team is out of timeouts and when a team has one left. Regarding situations when a team has one left, sometimes the officials ask for this information; otherwise, I volunteer it. When I mention that a team has one left without being asked, some seem to appreciate being told, some don't seem particularly interested. And there are times when I'm asked by an official to provide the information for each team, regardless of how many timeouts are left.

While I see some of the officials several times a year, my memory isn't good enough to remember from one time to the next if an official seemed to want to know when a team was down to one timeout. So I provide that information and let the official use it (or not use it) as he or she sees fit.

Does this seem appropriate? Would it be a good idea to ask the official who checks the book before the game begins how this should be handled? Or it would be best to only provide the information about timeouts left if and when I'm asked? (as long as I always remember to tell the officials when a team has used its last timeout). Thanks in advance.

[cdaref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

This I disagree with very strongly (and I believe that most experienced officials do too).
Only inform the coach when the team has used its final time-out. Other than that an official can have an awareness of how many and of what type remain, but stating such to a coach only exposes the official to a HUGE problem if he is mistaken.
Bottom line stick with "see it/hear it, grant it" and stay away from giving extra information to the coaches. Managers and assistants can communicate with the table for that. Afterall, that's their job.

Nevada, other than disagreeing about telling them the number of TOs remaining, do you agree that it is good awareness to know fouls and timeouts? Or do you just want to know when they are on their final time out?

I'm interested to hear this comment, and I appreciate your prior one as well.

I can certainly relate that (though I havent taken a poll) that my experience is that the other varsity officials up here in North Idaho all near the end of the game will at a time out or some other stoppage, check with the book and clock to make sure everything is right and also do a time out check and communicate time outs remaining to both coaches. But now that I think about it, I am not sure that this practice is as widespread as I believe it to be. And I certainly trust your input if you think this is a bad idea.

Now you've got me thinking...

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by cdaref

Nevada, other than disagreeing about telling them the number of TOs remaining, do you agree that it is good awareness to know fouls and timeouts? Or do you just want to know when they are on their final time out?

I'm interested to hear this comment, and I appreciate your prior one as well.

I can certainly relate that (though I havent taken a poll) that my experience is that the other varsity officials up here in North Idaho all near the end of the game will at a time out or some other stoppage, check with the book and clock to make sure everything is right and also do a time out check and communicate time outs remaining to both coaches. But now that I think about it, I am not sure that this practice is as widespread as I believe it to be. And I certainly trust your input if you think this is a bad idea.

Now you've got me thinking...

I see no problem with gathering information and making sure the books jibe. But what is the purpose of telling a coach how many times-out they have? It can't be preventive officiating b/c telling a coach he/she has 3 T-O's doesn't prevent anything.