Coach walks off floor....with players

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

I'm not sure what all triggered the final action any more, but according to my archives, he decided....... .

This is an interesting discussion and I enjoy reading the great game recaps. And, while I too can remember some of my more memorable or "infamous" games, my hat is off to some of you with your outstanding details.

Stat-man however mentions his "archive," which leads me to this question - other than keeping records for tax purposes (game, school, mileage, score, partner, etc.), what other records (situations, controversies, game recaps, personal critiques) do any of you keep and for how long? For what purpose? Do you go back and look at them? Under what circumstances?

Previously, I've only kept the tax info and any reports I had to send to my assignor on game issues.

Just curious. Thanks.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by grunewar

other than keeping records for tax purposes (game, school, mileage, score, partner, etc.), what other records (situations, controversies, game recaps, personal critiques) do any of you keep and for how long?

I keep track of every coach whose head blew up after I spoke with him. I take pictures, too, for my scrapbook. Here's one of them:

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Stat-man however mentions his "archive," which leads me to this question - other than keeping records for tax purposes (game, school, mileage, score, partner, etc.), what other records (situations, controversies, game recaps, personal critiques) do any of you keep and for how long? For what purpose? Do you go back and look at them? Under what circumstances?

Previously, I've only kept the tax info and any reports I had to send to my assignor on game issues.

Just curious. Thanks.

I keep nothing more than the basic schedule and info needed for taxes.

[NYBLUE]

I was reminded of this situation, and therefore posted it for discussion, while I was working a 14U fastpitch tournament this weekend.

During the 1st inning, I glanced into the stands and recognized this one man.
I could not put my finger on where I had seen him before.
My partner comes in to talk with me after the 1st inning and asks me if I remember that coach that walked off the floor during basketball. Right then and there, I realized the man in the stands was that very same basketball coach.

Yep! my partner in that softball game was the very same partner in the hoops game.

We never said a word to him during or after the softball game, but I really wanted to stop play and run over to short right field and ask the guy...
"Hey! Are you gonna pull these girls off the field today too?!"

We wondered if he even recognized us.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by NYBLUE

We never said a word to him during or after the softball game, but I really wanted to stop play and run over to short right field and ask the guy...
"Hey! Are you gonna pull these girls off the field today too?!"

That would have been incredibly cool - as long as the kids didn't hear you, that is.

[jmaellis]

I saw a team walk off the court last summer during a varsity tournament that was hosted by my daughter's high school. The following day the coach/team show up a the gym to continue in the tournament as if nothing had happened .... they were promptly informed that they had been replaced by the host school's JV team. I don't recall exactly what event/appointment I canceled so I could go to the game, but I canceled something and when they walked I was rather pissed off so I fired off this email to the superintendent of the school (I've changed the names to protect the innocent):

Dear Superintendent Smith;

I’m the parent of an A High School girl basketball player. I’m sending this email in that capacity only; I am not a school employee or otherwise affiliated with the high school and/or sports program.

Tonight (7/5/2007), the B girls played the A girls @ 9:00 PM. I was impressed with the way the B girls handled themselves on the court. A has several girls that are more than six feet tall; I don’t think I saw one B player over six feet. Even though the B players suffered from an obvious height disadvantage under the basket, they were holding their own; they are fast, good ball handlers and consistently scored 3 point baskets.

Approximately half way into the first half I witnessed something that I have never seen before .. the B coach ordered his team to walk off the court and leave the gymnasium.

From what I observed, the A coach requested and was granted a time out. The B coach felt that the A coach should not have have been granted the time out. He loudly protested to the referee. The referee disagreed with the B coach and granted the time out. The coach continued to loudly and angrily SCREAM at the referee. I saw and heard the referee repeatedly tell the coach to stop. The coach continued, and the referee assessed a technical foul against the coach. Even after receiving the technical foul, the coach continued to SCREAM at the referee. The coach then told his team to pack it up and they left the gym.

The coach’s behavior was absurd; but much worse, abandoning the game was truly disgraceful. The coach’s temper tantrum negatively reflects on the team, the high school and school district; and considering that B is a one high school town, his behavior was an embarrassment to the community as a whole.

I’m sure that you would agree that the role of a high school coach is more than just directing the team as they play. Coaches are role models, and the manner in which they conduct themselves serve as an example of how adults should handle difficult situations, conflict and pressure, and how an adult in a position of trust and leadership should behave. I have no idea how knowledgeable the coach is with regard to basketball; but as a leader he failed; what’s more, he not only failed, his behavior and lack of good judgment demonstrates that he is emotionally unsuitable to coach.

For a high school coach to act the way he did, it’s almost unbelievable. If I wasn’t there to see it for myself and somebody told me about it I would have thought they were pulling my leg. I’ve been involved in youth basketball since my daughter was old enough to play (youth rec., club, jr. high and high school) and I have never observed anything like what I saw tonight. The circumstances that could justify a coach acting the way that coach acted, and then abandoning the game, would have to be extreme. Disputes with the referee(s) and/or a feeling that you are be treated unfairly are issues to be resolved during the game in an appropriate manner, and if still unsatisfied, than with the appropriate authority after the game; a coach doesn’t just walk off the court to the detriment of his players, the opponent and the parents and fans who were there to see a basketball game.

If I were a parent within your district I would demand that you take action regarding this situation. Since I’m not, I just think that you should know about it.

Sincerely,

[basketball753]

Wow, I have never knew coaches would ever do that. But I guess there are all kinds of different people out in the world.

[jd6stop]

Happened to me several years ago. Of course the coach was getting further behind - losing about 12-15 pts. 1st half he never says a word to us. 2nd half things go south for his girls and they start missing shots, turnovers, etc. He is yelling at them - to no avail. Then he turns on us. He calls time and tells us that if we don't start calling better he is going to take his girls and leave. This is a class A to 2A HS tournament. Well he continues the next couple of minutes and he goes into a loud stomping fit and yelling at us about a call... T is accessed and as I report he gathers equipment and girls and goes to locker room. Assistant is sitting there staring at me and I ask, as if I don't already know, "is this a forfeit?" and he says in his hillbilly drawl - "yea yah, wad do ya thank!" and walks off with the team...
We report the forfeit to the table and and game is over, score stands. My check was the same as if they played the whole thing. We got home earlier that night as well.

[Damian]

talk about worse case scenario. At a college camp, had a team that was way out classed. Losing, but not a blow out. Partner called 3 T's on players just after fouls. Coach took team off of court and left. Made us all look bad.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Damian

Coach took team off of court and left. Made us all look bad.

Nope, something like that does NOT make the officials look bad at all.

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by grunewar

This is an interesting discussion and I enjoy reading the great game recaps. And, while I too can remember some of my more memorable or "infamous" games, my hat is off to some of you with your outstanding details.

Stat-man however mentions his "archive," which leads me to this question - other than keeping records for tax purposes (game, school, mileage, score, partner, etc.), what other records (situations, controversies, game recaps, personal critiques) do any of you keep and for how long? For what purpose? Do you go back and look at them? Under what circumstances?

Previously, I've only kept the tax info and any reports I had to send to my assignor on game issues.

Just curious. Thanks.

I have some sort of game information for all but 1 year of my "career."

In terms of tax information, I'm required to keep my business' tax-related documents for a minimum of 3 years, but I'll normally keep them for 6 before I shred them.