Reporting numbers after a foul

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Which is different from Chuck, who's just a fraction.

I need more tissues to wipe the Diet Pepsi off the screen.

I can't wait to see if he's gonna waste a "STFU" on you.

[Lcubed48]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

I'm a whole number guy. Reporting is about communication and which communicates more easily, "one three" or "thirteen"? We all know thirteen, but "one three" takes just a little bit of mapping from what was said into a "real" number. I also think in a noisy gym, where they may not clearly hear all of what I say, "thirteen" is more likely to be recognized correctly than it's two digit alternative.

The hard part is disconnecting the signaling from the saying. I'll usually show the first digit as I'm saying the number, then after a suitable length of time has passed, I'll signal the second digit. But when I watch newbies try it, the fingers are inevitably connected to the syllables.

Just my $0.02

Good point, IMO! As a newbie to whole number reporting, your point is spot on as to what I went through while switching my mechanic. My next learning objective is getting to the point where my fingers aren't tied to the syllables. I envision even more mirror time. Do you have any learning tips to pass along?

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

I need more tissues to wipe the Diet Pepsi off the screen.

I can't wait to see if he's gonna waste a "STFU" on you.

He's not allowed outside of the annual baseball thread so I think I'm safe if I avoid that for a few days. The way the home team's been playing I was going to do that anyway, so no biggie :shrug:

[Adam]

Is there a restraining order or something?

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Lcubed48

Good point, IMO! As a newbie to whole number reporting, your point is spot on as to what I went through while switching my mechanic. My next learning objective is getting to the point where my fingers aren't tied to the syllables. I envision even more mirror time. Do you have any learning tips to pass along?

Mirror time, mirror time, and more mirror time. Every time I use the restroom I call a foul on the guy in the mirror. I've found it useful to run through all the possible uni numbers, checking how they look and working on the timing. It's all about muscle memory, after all.

Also, if you have room by the mirror, practice doing your preliminary, taking a couple of steps to the "reporting area" then stopping and doing your table thing. This has helped me make moving, coming to a complete stop, and reporting more automatic.

You may also want to check yourself by closing your eyes and practicing individual mechanics aspect (fist up straight, traveling signal, etc.), then open your eyes and see if you really look like how you envision yourself looking. That's useful for making you more aware of how it feels to do it properly. 'Cuz at game time we have to do it entirely by feel.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Mirror time, mirror time, and more mirror time. Every time I use the restroom I call a foul on the guy in the mirror.

Ray, this is definitely MITIN.

More Information Than I Need

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Every time I use the restroom I call a foul on the guy in the mirror.

Did you ever call a foul on Senator Larry Craig?

[Lcubed48]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Mirror time, mirror time, and more mirror time. Every time I use the restroom I call a foul on the guy in the mirror. I've found it useful to run through all the possible uni numbers, checking how they look and working on the timing. It's all about muscle memory, after all.

Also, if you have room by the mirror, practice doing your preliminary, taking a couple of steps to the "reporting area" then stopping and doing your table thing. This has helped me make moving, coming to a complete stop, and reporting more automatic.

You may also want to check yourself by closing your eyes and practicing individual mechanics aspect (fist up straight, traveling signal, etc.), then open your eyes and see if you really look like how you envision yourself looking. That's useful for making you more aware of how it feels to do it properly. 'Cuz at game time we have to do it entirely by feel.

Thanks for the advice. I did try using all the number combinations, and I'll return to that while working on my timing as I incorporate some movement into my practice.
A side note to my mirror time practice is that my dogs don't like my practice to include the use of a whistle. Evidently the Fox 40 really bothers them.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Lcubed48

A side note to my mirror time practice is that my dogs don't like my practice to include the use of a whistle. Evidently the Fox 40 really bothers them.

I wouldn't actually blow the whistle in a small room, anyway. Not good for the ears. Just say "Tweet" or something similar to simulate the whistle, and then make the appropriate signals in the mirror. It really helps a lot.

[Lcubed48]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I wouldn't actually blow the whistle in a small room, anyway. Not good for the ears. Just say "Tweet" or something similar to simulate the whistle, and then make the appropriate signals in the mirror. It really helps a lot.

Yes, I learned that from the dogs, and that is what I have been doing. They and my ears appreciate the lack of noise.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I wouldn't actually blow the whistle in a small room, anyway. Not good for the ears. Just say "Tweet" or something similar to simulate the whistle, and then make the appropriate signals in the mirror. It really helps a lot.

Or if you're really feeling sadistic, you can use a dog whistle for your practice.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

The hard part is disconnecting the signaling from the saying. I'll usually show the first digit as I'm saying the number, then after a suitable length of time has passed, I'll signal the second digit. But when I watch newbies try it, the fingers are inevitably connected to the syllables.

Just my $0.02

I've always been a "one, three" kinda guy, but think I might like the whole number option better. So as I've been reading this thread this morning, I've been trying it. Seems to me saying "White thirteen" followed by signaling 1-3 would be a good method. It separates the one part verbal communication from the visual hand communication. It also seems to alleviate a lot of the concerns here - you say "Thirteen", and if there is any confusion at all on the scorer's part, he can then confirm with your hand signals. If you're signaling and saying "thirteen" at the same time, I could see a challenge in processing both seemingly different signals.

Then again, maybe we're all just over-thinking this.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Then again, maybe we're all just over-thinking this.

I agree.

It's very simple:
1) Do it the way the person who is paying/evaluating you says to do it...

if they don't care then...

2) You do what works for best for you.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I agree.

It's very simple:
1) Do it the way the person who is paying/evaluating you says to do it...

if they don't care then...

2) You do what works for best for you.

I do it that way already.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

It's very simple: Do it the way the person who is evaluating you says to do it.

Well put. Simple, and to the point.