Unsportsmanlike or not?

[Mark Padgett]

Ran into a fellow official at the store this morning and he related this to me. This past season he was working a JV boys game. A1 made a clean steal in his front court and took off on a breakaway. While he was going toward his basket, Coach B started yelling "TIMEOUT, TIMEOUT, TIMEOUT". A1 just continued and layed the ball in. Coach A lobbied the refs for an unsportmanlike T on coach B for doing that, claiming he was trying to trick A1 into pulling up. My buddy told Coach A there was nothing they could do in that situation. We then briefly discussed some variations to see if a T would ever be warranted. We both agreed that we might call it in a low level kids recreational game whether or not it had any effect on the player's drive, but not in any situation other than that.

What do you guys think? It was obvious to my buddy that Coach B really was trying to trick the kid and not that he might have thought he really good get a timeout granted then. Of course, to know that exactly, one would have to be able to read a coach's mind, and we all know that's like trying to drink from an empty cup.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Ran into a fellow official at the store this morning

*THE* store Mark? You only have 1 store in your neighborhood? Is this like one of those super walmart things where they sell everything you could possibly need from pet needs to plumbing?

and he related this to me. This past season he was working a JV boys game. A1 made a clean steal in his front court and took off on a breakaway. While he was going toward his basket, Coach B started yelling "TIMEOUT, TIMEOUT, TIMEOUT". A1 just continued and layed the ball in. Coach A lobbied the refs for an unsportmanlike T on coach B for doing that, claiming he was trying to trick A1 into pulling up. My buddy told Coach A there was nothing they could do in that situation. We then briefly discussed some variations to see if a T would ever be warranted. We both agreed that we might call it in a low level kids recreational game whether or not it had any effect on the player's drive, but not in any situation other than that.

What do you guys think? It was obvious to my buddy that Coach B really was trying to trick the kid and not that he might have thought he really good get a timeout granted then. Of course, to know that exactly, one would have to be able to read a coach's mind, and we all know that's like trying to drink from an empty cup.

I can't imagine giving a T for this.

[Bad Zebra]

Sounds like there are only 3 reasons for him doing what he did:
1) He's ignorant of the rules and actually thought he could get a time out called at that point.
2) He was trying to trick A1 into pulling up and stopping.
3) He was trying to trick the officials into blowing the whistle.

Since it's a JV game, 1) is a possibility. If that's what the officials thought, let it go and explain the rule to the dufus at the next stoppage. Who knows?..maybe he'll be a V coach someday and he really needs to learn.

As for 2) or 3), If ya know the guy and he's been around long enough to know better, I'd whack him. Sounds unsporting to me.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

*THE* store Mark? You only have 1 store in your neighborhood? Is this like one of those super walmart things where they sell everything you could possibly need from pet needs to plumbing?

It was the local adult video store, but I didn't want to mention it. I was renting that new kinky Billy Packer - Rosie O'Donnell video. OOPS!

[JRutledge]

I am not every calling a T for this. At least not for the reason the coach wanted me to call a T for.

Peace

[Adam]

No T from me, unless coach A lobbied too hard. He wouldn't like the results, though.

Bad Zebra missed two possible reasons.

4) He's telling his kids to request a timeout as soon as the ball goes through.
5) He's directly requesting a timeout once the basket is scored.

My answer: Wait for the basket to go in, then grant the coach his timeout and don't allow him to withdraw it.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

It was the local adult video store, but I didn't want to mention it. I was renting that new kinky Billy Packer - Rosie O'Donnell video. OOPS!

My sympathies to Billy Packer

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

No T from me, unless coach A lobbied too hard. He wouldn't like the results, though.

Bad Zebra missed two possible reasons.

4) He's telling his kids to request a timeout as soon as the ball goes through.
5) He's directly requesting a timeout once the basket is scored.

My answer: Wait for the basket to go in, then grant the coach his timeout and don't allow him to withdraw it.

you = angryman
me = not giving a ffff

[Cajun Reff]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

My sympathies to Billy Packer



you = angryman
me = not giving a ffff

bwahahahahahaha too funny dan. go in peace brother :cheers:

and to the original post, I will award however many T's my partner dan_ref says I should because he has credibility and I do not

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Cajun Reff

bwahahahahahaha too funny dan. go in peace brother :cheers:

and to the original post, I will award however many T's my partner dan_ref says I should because he has credibility and I do not

Yeah, you just stay over here under the basket. *I'll* go talk to the coaches and see if I can get our damn ratings up.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

you = angryman
me = not giving a ffff

Blah blah blah dan is mean blah blah blah
i'm not angry blah blah blah blah
sorry to interrupt your blah blah blah party
blah blah blah blah master dan blah blah blah

[Cajun Reff]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Yeah, you just stay over here under the basket. *I'll* go talk to the coaches and see if I can get our damn ratings up.

DONE DEAL, I got $0.50 in my pocket and the concessions are right there HAHAHA

[Cajun Reff]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Blah blah blah dan is mean blah blah blah
i'm not angry blah blah blah blah
sorry to interrupt your blah blah blah party
blah blah blah blah master dan blah blah blah

snaq let him go talk to the coaches and you and I can stay under the basket and finish this bag of popcorn

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Blah blah blah dan is mean blah blah blah
i'm not angry blah blah blah blah
sorry to interrupt your blah blah blah party
blah blah blah blah master dan blah blah blah

And you stay here with Cajun cause I'm throwing your azz under the bus

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

And you stay here with Cajun cause I'm throwing your azz under the bus

See, now you're just clinging to your bitterness and antipathy.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

And you stay here with Cajun cause I'm throwing your azz under the bus

Make sure it's a big bus - if it's one of those small, short buses he might survive.