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Old Tue May 27, 2008, 04:29pm
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Another option would be to move her up to play with the freshman or JV teams. I know this girl - she's incredibly talented and tall for her age. She towers over all the other 6th grade girls and boys. She is soft spoken and the sweetest kid you'll ever meet, and hates the attention this has caused. I blame it all on the coach. He could have done a better job of playing her on a team where she'd be challenged and blend in based on her skill level.
Why would you blame the coach? Why didn't the parents find her a team that was a better "fit" for her??
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Old Tue May 27, 2008, 04:35pm
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Why would you blame the coach? Why didn't the parents find her a team that was a better "fit" for her??
Because I also know the parents and the coach.
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Old Tue May 27, 2008, 04:45pm
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Old Tue May 27, 2008, 04:51pm
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I blame Canada.


In all seriousness, I'm sure we all wish the girl the best. But the NBA? I just don't see it.
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Old Wed May 28, 2008, 09:46am
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Because I also know the parents and the coach.
And???? Isn't it the child the parent's responsibility?? If she needs better competition, the parents need to get her into a league that has better competition...
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Old Wed May 28, 2008, 10:25am
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And???? Isn't it the child the parent's responsibility?? If she needs better competition, the parents need to get her into a league that has better competition...
I'm not going to get into another pissing contest with you. I'm basing my opinion on knowing all the parties involved personally. You're entitled to your opinion as well, knowing none of the parties involved.
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Old Wed May 28, 2008, 11:26am
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I'm not going to get into another pissing contest with you. I'm basing my opinion on knowing all the parties involved personally. You're entitled to your opinion as well, knowing none of the parties involved.
Huh?

What am I missing here? What does "knowing the parties" have to do with anybody's opinion on this? It doesn't make someone's "opinion" more valid.... or true.... than someone else's opinion.

An opinion is just and only that......an opinion. Differing "opinions" do not necessarily make a pissing contest.

Just my opinion....
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Old Wed May 28, 2008, 11:45am
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I'm not going to get into another pissing contest with you. I'm basing my opinion on knowing all the parties involved personally. You're entitled to your opinion as well, knowing none of the parties involved.
Wow...we've been in a pissing contest before? Must not have been very impressive as I don't remeber it. But I don't need to know the parties involved to know that it's the parent's responsibility to take care of their child and her future.
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Old Wed May 28, 2008, 12:12pm
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I'm not going to get into another pissing contest with you. I'm basing my opinion on knowing all the parties involved personally. You're entitled to your opinion as well, knowing none of the parties involved.
Whether you know the parties has nothing to do with this issue. The girl is going to likely play on a girl's team when she gets older. Parents dictate what their kids ultimately do and they should have kind of seen this coming (if you ask me). I really do not see the big deal as to why she must play on this team in the first place. There are not many sports that allow both genders to play on the same teams in the first place. And even the positions I have read from people outside the sporting world is more evidence how absurd this issue has become. When I was a kid there was a girl playing on the boy's team because there was no girl's team. It was not a problem and she I believe she started. But I do not remember her as being a world beater.

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Old Wed May 28, 2008, 12:30pm
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The fact that I know the people involved gives a certain credence to my opinion. Whether you care to agree is up to you. Certainly all of you who don't know the people involved are basing your opinions on what you've read in a newspaper blurb. I would argue that knowing the people involved absolutely helps to understand the situation better.

The issue was that parents complained because a girl was playing on a boys team. The coach should have known it was against the league's policy to allow a girl to play on a boys team. Evidently, the coach was told on many occasions that it was against the league policy. The coach escalated the issue to the media. The victim is this poor girl who meant no harm - she doesn't want all this attention - she just wants to play basketball.

Ultimately, I simply don't care what everyone else thinks.
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The issue was that parents complained because a girl was playing on a boys team.
Smitty - since you are so close to the situation, do you think the parents would have complained if the girl was just an average player? Just asking.
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Old Wed May 28, 2008, 01:01pm
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The fact that I know the people involved gives a certain credence to my opinion. Whether you care to agree is up to you. Certainly all of you who don't know the people involved are basing your opinions on what you've read in a newspaper blurb. I would argue that knowing the people involved absolutely helps to understand the situation better.

The issue was that parents complained because a girl was playing on a boys team. The coach should have known it was against the league's policy to allow a girl to play on a boys team. Evidently, the coach was told on many occasions that it was against the league policy. The coach escalated the issue to the media. The victim is this poor girl who meant no harm - she doesn't want all this attention - she just wants to play basketball.

Ultimately, I simply don't care what everyone else thinks.
Smitty,

The only facts I care about are that the girl was not allowed to play on the boy's team anymore. I do not care about how good she is or what her parent think.

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Old Wed May 28, 2008, 02:15pm
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The fact that I know the people involved gives a certain credence to my opinion. Whether you care to agree is up to you. Certainly all of you who don't know the people involved are basing your opinions on what you've read in a newspaper blurb. I would argue that knowing the people involved absolutely helps to understand the situation better.
Or perhaps the fact that you know the people involved causes you to shift blame to the party that you like the least - in this case the coach. Ultimately, the parents are responsible for where, when, and for whom their daughter plays. They should have known the rules of the league she was playing in...they should have known that eventually she would run into a situation just like this because she was playing in a boy's league. They either chose to ignore those things or purposefully put their daughter in a position for this to happen. Either way, it's their responsibility.

Not to get into a pissing match or anything...
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