Call The T

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

On my level...V HS playoff game...that player is going to get stuck. How is that anything but a display of poor sportsmanship?

I have a better question - How is it a display of poor sportsmanship??? He was not responding to a call or no-call by the officials. He was frustrated with no one but himself. As some guy named Chuck (or Bhuck or something like that) asked in an earlier post - what rule did he violate? Why is slamming the ball down an automatic T? Why is slamming the ball down automatically unsportsmanlike???

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

... He was frustrated with no one but himself. ..

How do we know that? Maybe that is the case. Maybe someone said something to set him off. I don't buy self-frustration as a license to release it on the court during a game by slamming a ball. JMO.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

How do we know that? Maybe that is the case. Maybe someone said something to set him off. I don't buy self-frustration as a license to release it on the court during a game by slamming a ball. JMO.

OK, so you are in the "it's an automatic T" camp then, right? So an honest question for you then - Can you supply a rules basis for that??

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

OK, so you are in the "it's an automatic T" camp then, right? So an honest question for you then - Can you supply a rules basis for that??

I never said I was in the automatic T camp (your words, not mine), just that I THOUGHT it looked appropriate here...and since you asked:

Player Technical Rule 10-3-6b: Delay the game by such acts as failing, when in posession, to immediately pass the ball to the nearer official when the whistle blows.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

I never said I was in the automatic T camp (your words, not mine), just that I THOUGHT it looked appropriate here...and since you asked:

Player Technical Rule 10-3-6b: Delay the game by such acts as failing, when in posession, to immediately pass the ball to the nearer official when the whistle blows.

Boy, a lot of wiggle room on that one.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Boy, a lot of wiggle room on that one.

...and my guess is that the FED intended it to be that way. I can't cite the NCAA rule...maybe it doesn't exist. This one's just my frame of reference.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

I never said I was in the automatic T camp (your words, not mine), just that I THOUGHT it looked appropriate here...and since you asked:

Player Technical Rule 10-3-6b: Delay the game by such acts as failing, when in posession, to immediately pass the ball to the nearer official when the whistle blows.

Interesting that you would call it based on an act delaying the game rather than an unsporting act.

And since a timeout had just been granted, perhaps he was not delaying the game? I do think it's possible that if there had been a violation or other activity and the official wanted to put the ball right back into play, throwing the ball down and away from the official may have been viewed differently.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Interesting that you would call it based on an act delaying the game ...

I'm calling it based on the violation of the rule cited. That's the way it's written. The context isn't really relevant to me.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

I'm calling it based on the violation of the rule cited. That's the way it's written. The context isn't really relevant to me.

Then I'll ask how did he delay the game? In order to violate the rule you cited it has to delay the game.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

I'm calling it based on the violation of the rule cited. That's the way it's written. The context isn't really relevant to me.

Neither, obviously is understanding the entire passage.

The key part is "delay the game." If he didn't "delay the game" than the rest starting with "such acts" is irrelevant.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

I'm calling it based on the violation of the rule cited. That's the way it's written. The context isn't really relevant to me.

And THAT is exactly what makes the difference in properly applying most rules.