Call The T

[just another ref]

A notable part of this situation to me was that Packer made such a big deal about what a wonderful decision it was for the official not to call the T. I didn't figure anybody there ever thought for a second about making the call. Guy who slammed the ball was not even involved in the action immediately before the whistle.

[chartrusepengui]

I don't care for the idea that you don't make a call because it's the biggest game of the year. Rules don't change because of that. If you make that call in the first or 10th game of the season - then you make it in the NCAA Final. Period.

However, that said - I wouldn't have called the 'T'. I would have gone to get ball and told him to dial it back a little and the message would have been clear.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Reffing Rev.

Next year when you are reffing a Monday night JV game and T a kid up for doing that guess what he's going to say...

That's all I was trying to say...

If you live in fear of what a 15 y/o kid is going to say to you, you should probably hang'em up.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

If you live in fear of what a 15 y/o kid is going to say to you, you should probably hang'em up.

If a kid actually says it, tell him that when he gets to play in the NCAA championship game, it won't be called, but here and now, it is.

That's the same scenario I use when a coach thinks that he gets the ball upcourt after a timeout. I tell him that when he gets to coach in the NBA, he can inbound it there.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Reffing Rev.

I don't care what the score is and what game it is, it is not the NBA, slam the ball get a T. I don't care who you are frustrated with...Every player knows you don't do that. I'm disappointed with Hightower after that!

I completely disagree!!!!!

Peace

[TRef21]

I like the no "T". The Biggest game in the nation. I like how the crew used common sense officiating in not calling that. C'mon guys would you really call that if you were in the biggest game (state title, ncaa championship, etc). Great job to the crew!!

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Reffing Rev.

I don't care what the score is and what game it is, it is not the NBA, slam the ball get a T. I don't care who you are frustrated with...Every player knows you don't do that. I'm disappointed with Hightower after that!

Nope..........

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

I was talking to Chuck about this. He says you're full of sh1t.

Tsk, tsk. Chuck would never say anything as vulgar as that. He would say that he's full of poopoo.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Tsk, tsk. Chuck would never say anything as vulgar as that. He would say that he's full of poopoo.

Well, he actually said bunny droppings, I amplified for effect.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Reffing Rev.

I don't care what the score is and what game it is, it is not the NBA, slam the ball get a T.

It's not high school either, Rev. Different philosophy. There's a time and a place, and that was neither.

[a4caster]

With all due respect, if he took a swing at a player, are we going to ignore that as well? Or if the coach comes out of the box to chew on a ref? Or if they hang on the rim (oh, i guess they already let that one go).
My beef is that it bleeds down to the lower levels. I understand where rev is coming from: (they can do it in NCAA). And I have no problem telling the 9th grader jerk "they can T them up in the NCAA, too" I just want a little consistency.
I will end with this question: If it was the state championship of your respective state, and the top player did that, would you call it?

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by a4caster

With all due respect, if he took a swing at a player, are we going to ignore that as well? Or if the coach comes out of the box to chew on a ref? Or if they hang on the rim (oh, i guess they already let that one go).
My beef is that it bleeds down to the lower levels. I understand where rev is coming from: (they can do it in NCAA). And I have no problem telling the 9th grader jerk "they can T them up in the NCAA, too" I just want a little consistency.
I will end with this question: If it was the state championship of your respective state, and the top player did that, would you call it?

Why is the ninth grader a jerk?

[a4caster]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Why is the ninth grader a jerk?

per the OP, for slamming the ball.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by a4caster

per the OP, for slamming the ball.

There is no mention of a ninth grader in the OP.

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by a4caster

if he took a swing at a player, are we going to ignore that as well?

That's clearly defined in the rules as fighting. Not ignored.

Or if the coach comes out of the box to chew on a ref?

This is a major POE, and will not be ignored; although in a game of this magnitude, some latitude will probably be given.

Or if they hang on the rim

The NCAA rule is different from FED. NCAA says you can't grasp "in an emphatic manner".

IOW, you're comparing apples to bunny droppings.

My beef is that it bleeds down to the lower levels.

If something is legal at the NCAA level, it's not the NCAA officials' problem if it bleeds down to the high school kids. It's our job in our HS games to call it, regardless of where it comes from.