legal play? or Not?

[Johnny Ringo]

A1 is dribbling then picks up dribble and throws a pass from top of the key to A2, who is in the paint and is not looking ... the ball is a little high - strikes the backboard (only) and bounces straight back and is caught by A1 who proceeds to dribble in and shoot a layup.

violation or not?

[just another ref]

no violation

[Johnny Ringo]

OK ... can you say why this is legal?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

OK ... can you say why this is legal?

Because the book says so!

Seriously, the reason why is not real clear but the presumption is that if the ball hits the board, it is, for the purposes of whether a player gets another dribble, considered a shot.

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Because the book says so!

Seriously, the reason why is not real clear but the presumption is that if the ball hits the board, it is, for the purposes of whether a player gets another dribble, considered a shot.

And the presumption that the ball is in A's frontcourt.

[Johnny Ringo]

Can A1 end a dribble - throw it off th backboard, be the first to touch again and start a new dribble?

[Nagy0716]

yes, any attempted shot, he can dribble it

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

Can A1 end a dribble - throw it off th backboard, be the first to touch again and start a new dribble?

Yes, for exactly the same reason Camron mentioned.

[Nagy0716]

im new to this site and wondering how u make a thread? thanks

[Johnny Ringo]

But, what if it's not an attempted shot.

So, I guess what you are saying is that any time you strike the backboard with the ball it is a shot?

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

But, what if it's not an attempted shot.

So, I guess what you are saying is that any time you strike the backboard with the ball it is a shot?

That is the interpretation. Any time the ball strikes a player's backboard, it is to be treated as a shot attempt.

[Nagy0716]

i mean that is one of the times u use your "discrestion"...

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

So, I guess what you are saying is that any time you strike the backboard with the ball it is a shot?

How can you possibly be 100% sure it isn't a shot?

Unless you're a mind reader, there's always at least some doubt as to whether it's a shot or not. And if there's any doubt, we shouldn't be making a call.

[Johnny Ringo]

Let's see ... a one-handed baseball motion like throw that is followed by yelling a teammate's name who is not looking and the ball strikes the bottom left corner of the board.

Pretty confident that was not a try.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

Let's see ... a one-handed baseball motion like throw that is followed by yelling a teammate's name who is not looking and the ball strikes the bottom left corner of the board. Pretty confident that was not a try.

At one time, I believe that the NFHS had us trying to distinguish between a legal try, and an alleyoop pass, both from behind the three point arc, where the alleyoop pass happend to go in. Three points for the legal try. Two point for the alleyoop. Now the NFHS allows us to credit three points in both cases. I'm not 100% sure about this. I'm positive I'll find out soon if I'm wrong.