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Adam Wed Mar 19, 2008 04:11pm
I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell ya!

rockyroad Wed Mar 19, 2008 04:49pm
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Originally Posted by socalreff
Not all of us!!! Don't lump me in with the star treatment crowd.
All I said was that the officiating was poor in that game mainly because of a failure to properly assess the principle of verticality.
Oops...sorry. I fixed it.

Adam Wed Mar 19, 2008 04:51pm
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
I just finished watching a replay of the game being discussed--Mater Dei/Mitty-- on PRIME channel. Officiating was <b>not</b> a factor.
Interesting. Was verticality applied correctly? :D

Jurassic Referee Wed Mar 19, 2008 05:57pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Interesting. Was verticality applied correctly? :D
Let's just say that it's really not worth discussing this particular thread any further. Nothing to be gained from an officiating standpoint imo. Hopefully, it'll die...like it should have on the first page.

TheOracle Mon Mar 24, 2008 03:33pm
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Originally Posted by socalreff
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
I just finished watching a replay of the game being discussed--Mater Dei/Mitty-- on PRIME channel. Officiating was not a factor.



Anyone that thinks officiating is not a factor in every single game is in outer space. It rarely affects the outcome of a game but it is always a factor.
Just because JR is afraid to be critiqued doesn't mean the rest of us are. I can't get better without it. How much good does it do me for my partner to tell me I did a great job if he doesn't believe it? If I work with a lower ranked official and I have a subpar game, I will be the first one to tell him. And if he thinks it and doesn't tell me, how much good does that do anyone?
You are 100% correct. But don't tell too many people here that. They don't want to hear it. Remember, there's only one way to do things, right? ;)

Bad Zebra Mon Mar 24, 2008 03:35pm
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Originally Posted by socalreff
...Anyone that thinks officiating is not a factor in every single game is in outer space. It rarely affects the outcome of a game but it is always a factor...
Dude. That statement just shows you really don't get it. Give it up already.

Ch1town Mon Mar 24, 2008 03:57pm
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Originally Posted by socalreff
Anyone that thinks officiating is not a factor in every single game is in outer space. It rarely affects the outcome of a game but it is always a factor.
Let's apply that logic to another senario & make sure it all checks out:
2 x 3 = 6

If 2 & 3 are the factors, how do they not affect the outcome? Just saying...

Jurassic Referee Mon Mar 24, 2008 04:16pm
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Originally Posted by socalreff
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
I just finished watching a replay of the game being discussed--Mater Dei/Mitty-- on PRIME channel. Officiating was not a factor.



Anyone that thinks officiating is not a factor in every single game is in outer space. It rarely affects the outcome of a game but it is always a factor.
Just because JR is afraid to be critiqued doesn't mean the rest of us are. I can't get better without it. How much good does it do me for my partner to tell me I did a great job if he doesn't believe it? If I work with a lower ranked official and I have a subpar game, I will be the first one to tell him. And if he thinks it and doesn't tell me, how much good does that do anyone?
I watched that game again this past weekend. They had it on in the East on Fox Baltimore. I'll iterate again what I stated...officiating was not a factor.

It's not a matter of anyone being afraid to be critiqued. It is a matter of people who very obviously don't have the experience, knowledge or competency to critique other officials still trying to do so. Let's get that little fact straight once again.

lpbreeze Mon Mar 24, 2008 05:58pm
that's nice. did you see the Mack-Compton game(Div 1)- that was fun to watch. Well officiated. It was clear the better team won unlike the Div II game where the refs clearly affected how the teams played and substituted making them a factor.



even i don't want this thread to continue. geeez. NCAA time...

Jurassic Referee Mon Mar 24, 2008 07:23pm
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Originally Posted by lpbreeze
It was clear the better team won unlike the Div II game where the refs clearly affected how the teams played and substituted making them a factor.
And the first-year expert on college officials strikes once again.....:rolleyes:

Amazing....but not surprising.

26 Year Gap Mon Mar 24, 2008 07:26pm
Until he can show us he can do a better job than Jon Diebler, he should just shut up.

lpbreeze Mon Mar 24, 2008 07:44pm
never. the masked bandit shall strike again. JR the lemming.
http://store.perspicuity.com/section...ming.sized.jpg

26 Year Gap Mon Mar 24, 2008 07:47pm
Silenced by the ignore feature.:D

Jurassic Referee Mon Mar 24, 2008 08:05pm
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Originally Posted by lpbreeze
never. the masked bandit shall strike again. JR the lemming.
http://www.forumspile.com/Go-Away-Toilet_flush.jpg

Ch1town Tue Mar 25, 2008 10:47am
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Originally Posted by lpbreeze
the refs clearly affected how the teams played and substituted making them a factor.
Maybe... just maybe, it could be worded as follows:

"the teams clearly didn't adjust to how the refs called the game thus there were a lot of whistles which caused a substitution pattern of early & often"


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