Patches

[inigo montoya]

The flag with gold trim is also supposed to be reserved for military purposes, isn't it?

[Coltdoggs]

Indiana requires the IHSAA patch on left sleeve for all Freshman level and higher.

You don't have to be licensed for JRHS but I suppose it doesn't hurt. I let my license lapse a couple years ago cause I wasn't working HS games but I'm going to retake the test next fall and get my patch again...

One time I heard some fan say about me, "He doesn't even have a patch on" ....I thought to myself, well...he's right but the guy I was workin with did and he was a first year guy and I'm not sure the patch made much difference!

[Adam]

I still have a few shirts without the IAABO patch, and I try to match my partners when working lower level games. I remember hearing a fan yell at me to go back to school and get my patch. I wished I'd brought my patched shirt so I could have changed at half time.

Speaking of patches, just because an official has one doesn't neccessarily mean he/she can officiate. It just simply means they passed a test!!

Working 7th grade a&b games yesterday, my partner comes in fully geared up (IAABO patch & flag on shirt) 2 minutes before tip-off. As I'm changing from my greys to stripes, because he doesn't own greys, I ask him why he's wearing a HS shirt for a MS game? He says so coaches & fans will know he's certified & capable of working the games!

So I'm L & 3 minutes into the game an airball by A3 (visitors) he rebounds his own miss, I got nothing crowd goes nuts, the T comes in with the AT&T travel violation.
Fan says, that's why he has the patch on his shirt.

Perception is reality?

[Adam]

Dude. Ouch! Did you talk to him about that later?

BTW, middle school wears grey shirts around here?

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Dude. Ouch! Did you talk to him about that later?

BTW, middle school wears grey shirts around here?

I tried speaking with him about that, as well as not tossing the jump with his volleyball whistle in mouth & how the T should blow the FT dead when it doesn't strike anything, but he wasn't too receptive as he kept looking in the spot where the patch should be on my shirt.

He claims to be looking forward to attending our local HS camp this summer
Thank gawd!!

[Adam]

When is it? I might go.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Coltdoggs

Indiana requires the IHSAA patch on left sleeve for all Freshman level and higher.

You don't have to be licensed for JRHS but I suppose it doesn't hurt. I let my license lapse a couple years ago cause I wasn't working HS games but I'm going to retake the test next fall and get my patch again...

One time I heard some fan say about me, "He doesn't even have a patch on" ....I thought to myself, well...he's right but the guy I was workin with did and he was a first year guy and I'm not sure the patch made much difference!

What's to prevent any guy off the street from buying a uni and purporting to be a ref? In Illinois it's a red flag with no patch. And any high school game at any level where a ref shows up with no patch(I've never seen it) would be under extreme scrutiny from both school administration and fans.

The patch I don't have and can't buy is STATE FINAL OFFICIAL...

[Coltdoggs]

Originally Posted by fullor30

What's to prevent any guy off the street from buying a uni and purporting to be a ref? In Illinois it's a red flag with no patch. And any high school game at any level where a ref shows up with no patch(I've never seen it) would be under extreme scrutiny from both school administration and fans.

The patch I don't have and can't buy is STATE FINAL OFFICIAL...

Legit question fullor....I guess for ME, I've been around the city working games for 7 seasons now so it's not been a big deal for ME.

When I first started working games at the hoops facility I work during the summer (MS/AAU/Summer HS stuff) I had a list of references I was ready to have my scheduler call on. He stated he was fine with me not being IHSAA Licensed but that they would monitor/evaluate me in their "house league" first...After my first weekend of games he was fine with me working and since then I've worked plenty of games in their larger tournaments that draw teams from around the state as well as Midwest.

For the HS games in Indiana...yes, you do have to be State Licensed and MUST wear your patch...

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Coltdoggs

Legit question fullor....I guess for ME, I've been around the city working games for 7 seasons now so it's not been a big deal for ME.

When I first started working games at the hoops facility I work during the summer (MS/AAU/Summer HS stuff) I had a list of references I was ready to have my scheduler call on. He stated he was fine with me not being IHSAA Licensed but that they would monitor/evaluate me in their "house league" first...After my first weekend of games he was fine with me working and since then I've worked plenty of games in their larger tournaments that draw teams from around the state as well as Midwest.

For the HS games in Indiana...yes, you do have to be State Licensed and MUST wear your patch...

I'm sure there are plenty of unpatched refs here, yet we have over 5,000 licensed officials. I started off doing high school games immediately and wanted to do it the right way. I felt I'd be cheating myself if I wasn't patched and didn't pass the test. It's pretty much the norm regarding being licensed and patched. You won't get much respect nor much of ANY schedule without being licensed here.

[jsblanton]

[QUOTE=Coltdoggs]Indiana requires the IHSAA patch on left sleeve for all Freshman level and higher.


Is it true that the IHSAA can revoke an officials lic. if he or she doesn't properly display the patch on the shirt?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Coltdoggs

One time I heard some fan say about me, "He doesn't even have a patch on" ....I thought to myself, well...he's right but the guy I was workin with did and he was a first year guy and I'm not sure the patch made much difference!

I have had people that said the same thing to me when I was working AAU games or even summer games which do not require a patch.

Peace

[tomegun]

I think the whole "Patched" terminology and language is ridiculous and many comments in this thread are the reason why. To say someone is going to get patched says nothing of their ability to officiate a game well. Whether someone wears a patch or not is no indication of their training or ability.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Whether someone wears a patch or not is no indication of their training or ability.

Agree. You evaluate the official, not the patch.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I think the whole "Patched" terminology and language is ridiculous and many comments in this thread are the reason why. To say someone is going to get patched says nothing of their ability to officiate a game well. Whether someone wears a patch or not is no indication of their training or ability.

To say someone is going to get patched says nothing of their ability to officiate a game well. Whether someone wears a patch or not is no indication of their training or ability.

Disagree to some extent. You have to be licensed in Illinois to ref high chool games, to be licensed yearly, you have to pass a test and attend a mandatory rules meeting and additionally attend a clinic I believe every other year. Does this make you a good ref? Of course not, but it does say something about one's training........... they've made the effort. I can only go by what I see in the Chicagoland area, and an unpatched official at the middle school level leaves alot to be desired and clearly indicates no effort for self improvement or a willingness to learn. That said, there are plenty of horrible officials that are patched only in an effort to collect a check.