6 players on the court

[teachingball]

I need help understanding a call made yesterday:

Coming out after a timeout, Team A had 6 players on the court. Team A proceeded to score on the in bounds play. Referees then realize 6 players were on the court during the play and gave Team A a technical foul and that the points would not be removed from the score. Their explaination was that it was their fault and that they were sorry they didn't recognize the 6 players for Team A, but once the play started Team B had to live with the results.

(BTW - Team B coach was screaming they had 6 players on the court from the time the official handed the ball to Team A).


What is the proper call here?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by teachingball

What is the proper call here?

Just what teh officials did -- a T for 6 players, but the rest of the play stands.

Note that if the officials had recognized the 6 players prior to the score, the results would be different.

[just another ref]

If somebody needs an explanation, just tell them that the infraction is penalized when discovered, and what happens before that is irrelevant. There is a logical reason for this. If anything significant happens with 6 on the floor, this pretty much means that the officials don't know when the 6th player appeared, or they would have made the call at that point.

[teachingball]

Originally Posted by just another ref

If somebody needs an explanation, just tell them that the infraction is [B]penalized when discovered,[B] and what happens before that is irrelevant. There is a logical reason for this. If anything significant happens with 6 on the floor, this pretty much means that the officials don't know when the 6th player appeared, or they would have made the call at that point.

Where can I find that rule? What area of the case book or rule book?

What if they had realized it before the basket was scored, but ball was in play?

What if they realized it before handing the ball in?

What if a foul occured during the play?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by teachingball

Where can I find that rule? What area of the case book or rule book?

What if they had realized it before the basket was scored, but ball was in play?

What if they realized it before handing the ball in?

What if a foul occured during the play?

All rules regarding fouls and dead balls apply.

Before handing the ball in..no penalty...get the 6th off the floor....once it is in the thrower's hands...T.

All fouls count normally. If the shot is released before it is discovered it counts.

[teachingball]

Thanks,

Sick ruling though. Wouldn't think a team with an unfair advantage could benefit in any way.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by teachingball

Thanks,

Sick ruling though. Wouldn't think a team with an unfair advantage could benefit in any way.

If you want to look at it that way, there are a lot of plays that a team can make that benefit that team and give them an advantage..................as long as they don't get caught. 6 players on the court, I would say, is virtually always done by accident, and, as stated earlier, is penalized immediately when discovered. You can't take the points off the board because you can't be sure when the extra player came on the floor.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by teachingball

Where can I find that rule? What area of the case book or rule book?

NFHS rule 10-1-6. It states "Penalized if discovered while being violated". Until discovered---> no penalty.