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Old Tue Feb 26, 2008, 12:01pm
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Have many times have you seen advantage/disadvantage not used with this play? This is my twenty-seventh year of officiating, working from 60, to 100, games a year, I also coached over 500 middle school games, I played about 80 games in high school, watched my daughter play recreation, middle school, high school, and AAU ball, and watched my son play recreation ball, and I've only seen this play once, yes, just once, a few weks ago.
Bizarrely I had to make this call twice this following weekend at a tournament for V girls. In the first play A1 and B1 are both trying to get a loose ball near the end line when A1 punches the ball with a closed fist directly up in the air (a bad volleyball play?) tweet.

Second time different game. A1 attempts to pass the ball to A2 in the restricted area (key) B1 reaches out with a fist and punches ball away, tweet.

In both cases I do not at all understand the logic of this play except to say they are clueless about the game. In the first situation A1 had a height advantage and could have easily tipped the ball upwards to get it out of reach of B1. In the second situation B1 could have tipped the ball with an open hand, or tried to intercept the pass. So it looks like I have 54 years worth of experience with this play from one weekends work
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2008, 12:12pm
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Bizarrely I had to make this call twice this following weekend at a tournament for V girls.
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2008, 12:16pm
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2008, 12:22pm
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what don't you understand: FOLLOWING a violation I HAD TO make a call. Sorry I am speaking in FIBA, so it all makes sense to me and 5.7 billion non ncaa/nfhs players/people.

If you need any more clarifications, post the question in french and I'll get back to you the following week
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2008, 12:23pm
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Other than the generic violation signal? I see where CA originally also used the "kick" signal too. Is this what everyone else uses? Is there another preferred signal? Or, just go with "violation." Just curious as I've never called it.
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2008, 12:54pm
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Other than the generic violation signal? I see where CA originally also used the "kick" signal too. Is this what everyone else uses? Is there another preferred signal? Or, just go with "violation." Just curious as I've never called it.
Of a player fists the ball. Just make a fist and verbalize the violation. Or simply verbalize it. That'll let everybody know what you called. The "kick" signal is for a kick. Using the "kick"signal is not only inappropriate, it's stoopid imo.
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2008, 01:37pm
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Of a player fists the ball. Just make a fist and verbalize the violation. Or simply verbalize it. That'll let everybody know what you called. The "kick" signal is for a kick. Using the "kick"signal is not only inappropriate, it's stoopid imo.
There is no "fisting" mechanic?
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2008, 01:39pm
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There is no "fisting" mechanic?
Is this the appropriate time for a Hackensack joke?
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2008, 01:41pm
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Is this the appropriate time for a Hackensack joke?
Or Jenna Jameson?
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Old Tue Feb 26, 2008, 01:47pm
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