School Not Allowing a Woman Official

[rockyroad]

While I think this action is ridiculous, I'm not sure it makes the school "kooks". They certainly are different, but they are entitled to their stances - like them or not. Since they are not full memebers of the KSHSAA, is there really anything the KSHSAA can do to the school as a result of this?

The thing that really grabbed my attention from the article is the lady official's responses - what a class act! She seems like the type of person I would ref with - or walk off the court together with - any day of the week.

[bgtg19]

When I make a call and a fan in the stands disagrees with my call - and perhaps I'm in the minority, but this seems to be the case with some regularity - I wish they would recognize the fact of our disagreement without resorting to name calling.

I'd like officials, even officials posting on web sites, to extend the same courtesy. As a result, I'd like to request - recognizing that I don't have any power or authority in this matter - that we refrain from calling people "kooks" if we disagree with them.

Personally, I not only disagree with the school's position, I can't understand it. I support the choices of the officials who walked off with Ms. Campbell and the officials who will choose not to work at this school because of a policy with which they disagree. The school made a choice apparently due to a sincerely held belief; we officials can make choices (e.g., not to work at that school) due to our sincerely held beliefs. Ad hominem and ad populum attacks are not helpful.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bgtg19

When I make a call and a fan in the stands disagrees with my call - and perhaps I'm in the minority, but this seems to be the case with some regularity - I wish they would recognize the fact of our disagreement without resorting to name calling.

I'd like officials, even officials posting on web sites, to extend the same courtesy. As a result, I'd like to request - recognizing that I don't have any power or authority in this matter - that we refrain from calling people "kooks" if we disagree with them.

Personally, I not only disagree with the school's position, I can't understand it. I support the choices of the officials who walked off with Ms. Campbell and the officials who will choose not to work at this school because of a policy with which they disagree. The school made a choice apparently due to a sincerely held belief; we officials can make choices (e.g., not to work at that school) due to our sincerely held beliefs. Ad hominem and ad populum attacks are not helpful.

This is 2007 and we live in America (most of us). Refusing a woman official is abhorrent and "kook", IMO, is a kind way of describing these people.

What lessons are they teaching? Do they have less respect for female police officers, for example, because it's a woman in a position of authority?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

This is 2007 and we live in America (most of us). Refusing a woman official is abhorrent and "kook", IMO, is a kind way of describing these people.

Well in that case, I think you're a nut-job for thinking that they are kooks. In the name of diversity (or at least your version of it) you are dismissing their diverse worldview as not fitting your worldview. Kind of the pot calling the kettle black, doncha think??

Anyway, I really don't think the school handled things well, and I am tremendously impressed with Ms. Campbell's response to the whole thing.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bgtg19

I'd like officials, even officials posting on web sites, to extend the same courtesy. As a result, I'd like to request - recognizing that I don't have any power or authority in this matter - that we refrain from calling people "kooks" if we disagree with them.

There you go again. Trying to tell everybody how to post. You're cut from the same mold as the people who run that school.

Feel free to mind your own damn business and not ours.

[bgtg19]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

There you go again. Trying to tell everybody how to post. You're cut from the same mold as the people who run that school.

Feel free to mind your own damn business and not ours.

Jurassic, this is now the second time you have suggested that I "mind [my] own damn business." I don't see how or why an appeal for us to refrain from name calling would be bothersome to you, but even if you disagree with my point, why is in inappropriate for me to express my opinion?

I'm cut from the same mold as people who believe women should not have positions of authority over boys because I think it's important to treat people with civility and because I don't like name calling?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bgtg19

I don't see how or why an appeal for us to refrain from name calling would be bothersome to you, but even if you disagree with my point, why is in inappropriate for me to express my opinion?

I don't have a problem with you or anyone expressing your opinion. However, that doesn't mean that you have the right to tell anybody what they can post or not post. Plain and simple, that's none of your damn business. That's up to the people that own this site, and the people that they appointed as moderators. You completely fail to see that point.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I don't have a problem with you or anyone expressing your opinion. However, that doesn't mean that you have the right to tell anybody what they can post or not post. Plain and simple, that's none of your damn business. That's up to the people that own this site, and the people that they appointed as moderators. You completely fail to see that point.

And you refuse to acknowledge the equally true and valid point that anybody who posts here is free to post what they like within the limits allowed by the owners and their moderators. That includes pleas for more civility in posting. And, before you jump all over me, it also includes your right to be a SOB in response to such pleas.

What's posted in this online community is the business of everybody in the community. Not just it's curmudgeons.

[Bearfanmike20]

wouldn't the fact that her name is michelle give it away before the game ever came close to starting??..

[Rita C]

Originally Posted by wildcatter

http://www.kansascity.com/105/story/487355.html



Kooks. Does this happen often? Or just in my home state?

My mother would have a ball telling that AD off.

My husband wonders how they let the nuns teach in Catholic schools all these years.

Rita

[Bearfanmike20]

Originally Posted by Rita C

My husband wonders how they let the nuns teach in Catholic schools all these years.

Rita

They were really cross dressing priests??...

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Bearfanmike20

They were really cross dressing priests??...

Most priests do wear a cross. What's your point?

[Bearfanmike20]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Most priests do wear a cross. What's your point?