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Old Wed Feb 13, 2008, 06:49am
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Watching the ball.

When I'm observing, you can see what an official is looking at by looking at their eyes. Unbelievable amount of 'experienced' officials following the ball.

When my partner calls a foul/violation in my area. It's pretty obvious they aren't watching their own area.

I've tried all the comments, such as "what were other 8 players doing while we were both watching the ball", etc. Those don't work very well.

My favorite comment was when the Lead called traveling on a player that just crossed the division line. I waited until the next dead ball and said "You really saved me on that last one". Partner says "What"? I say, "That last traveling call. It was right in front of me and I somehow missed it. Thanks for helping me out on that one".

I don't know if he started watching his own area, but he didn't make any more calls in my area.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2008, 07:00am
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Officials that don't:

- show up early/on time

- take pride in their appearance,

- hustle on the court,

- study the game but "think/act like they know everything"

- give each game "their all" as they are just going through the motions because maybe this game is beneath them. "I mean, gosh, how can I still be doing JV, MS, F, and rec games?"

And officials that aren't willing to learn, admit mistakes, and help the younger and newer guys/gals coming up.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2008, 07:33am
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Officials who are overweight.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2008, 08:14am
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Officials who are overweight.
You know this is a disability. Are you discriminating?
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2008, 08:20am
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2008, 08:25am
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You know this is a disability. Are you discriminating?
Hence why I said those who "don't take pride in their appearance" - which can be translated however you like - faded uniform, belted pants, facial hair, overweight, unauthorized shoes, etc., etc.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2008, 09:02am
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Hence why I said those who "don't take pride in their appearance" - which can be translated however you like - faded uniform, belted pants, facial hair, overweight, unauthorized shoes, etc., etc.
Belted pants rarely need to be Welmered.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2008, 09:42am
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Officials who are overweight.
I worry more about how well people call the game. Give me an overweight official who does his job over someone who calls in my primary, calls every bit of contact instead of advantage/disadvantage, and generally sucks.

Of course, I'm a short guy who could stand to lose a few pounds (and always could). Nice to know you'd hate working with me without even knowing how well I do on the court. Must kill people like you knowing I work 40+ varsity games each year and am generally wanted back by schools, conferences, etc.

This is, naturally, going to change my generally positive perception of you on this board. C'est la vie.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2008, 10:10am
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I have to agree - appearance only goes so far. I see no problem with someone being overweight as long as they can move fast enough to get into positon.

Secondly, no problem with facial hair.

Oh and since when are beltless pants required? (case play please)
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2008, 10:28am
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Partners that don't hustle.

When I have to guess why my partner blew their whistle.

Partners that disappear in the last few minutes of a close game.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2008, 10:32am
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Oh and since when are beltless pants required? (case play please)
There's nothing in the rules that prohibits middle-aged, balding men from officiating with a shoulder-length pony-tail, either.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2008, 01:32pm
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I worry more about how well people call the game. Give me an overweight official who does his job over someone who calls in my primary, calls every bit of contact instead of advantage/disadvantage, and generally sucks.

Of course, I'm a short guy who could stand to lose a few pounds (and always could). Nice to know you'd hate working with me without even knowing how well I do on the court. Must kill people like you knowing I work 40+ varsity games each year and am generally wanted back by schools, conferences, etc.

This is, naturally, going to change my generally positive perception of you on this board. C'est la vie.
Rich, I'm not one to take up for Nevada, but I don't think needing to shed some pounds falls into the category of Nevada's "overweight" statement. If you're overweight and not getting up and down the court, I pretty much have a issue with that as well. I could care less if you make the greatest calls in the world, if your weight affects you getting into position or having to make a AT&T call because you're steady getting beat down the court, then it's a problem. I'm sure I don't have to tell you that perception is everything now days, and I heard it all summer long in camps about officials being overweight, or they need to shed some pounds etc. etc.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2008, 01:36pm
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I also dislike officials who eat multiple burritos right before a game - or worse, at halftime! Especially when they stand close.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2008, 01:47pm
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Rich, I'm not one to take up for Nevada, but I don't think needing to shed some pounds falls into the category of Nevada's "overweight" statement. If you're overweight and not getting up and down the court, I pretty much have a issue with that as well. I could care less if you make the greatest calls in the world, if your weight affects you getting into position or having to make a AT&T call because you're steady getting beat down the court, then it's a problem. I'm sure I don't have to tell you that perception is everything now days, and I heard it all summer long in camps about officials being overweight, or they need to shed some pounds etc. etc.
Well, I see the difference, sure. I still have to work a lot of 2-person varsity and if I wasn't getting in position, I'd hang it up. Do I get beat down the floor a couple times a game? Absolutely, but that's because I really step down as the trail on rebounding and get the best angles on closely guarded situations and I'd rather work the whole game well as the trail than to be able to brag that "I never get beat down the court." I can officiate from behind a couple of times (1-2) a game and still get the calls right.

Camps? I find that this is the best excuse to eliminate someone you don't want in the conference. Not personally as I haven't attended one of those "full camps" in 5 years. I don't spend $300 to be worked like a dog for 3 days.

They charge people tons of money and run them for 3 days straight and if you aren't running like a gazelle in your 12th game of the weekend, you can't "keep up." It's ludicrous.

What a ludicrous practice, really, considering I never work more than one game at a time.

My comment was this: If you are putting this at the top of your list of pet peeves, you must be working with some pretty perfect officials on the court.
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Old Wed Feb 13, 2008, 02:08pm
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#3. Wearing a college shirt/jacket in a high school game.

#2. I worked with a fellow recently who put smokeless tobacco in his mouth during halftime of the first game. A school administrator told him it was a tobacco-free zone, and he did again later in the night!

But my biggest pet peeve:
#1. The guy who doesn't wear a lanyard, and then tells me and my partner all night why it makes him a better foul caller.
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