Shot Clock rule in NFHS?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by LDUB

Is that what the actual rule reads? What if the ball contacts the flange or backboard before it hits the ring?

The restrictions do end when the ball touches the backboard. That's a basic and Billy knew that.

Now you tell me....do the restrictions similarly end when the ball on a FT hits the flange?

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The restrictions do end when the ball touches the backboard. That's a basic and Billy knew that.

Not according to the rule Conn. IAABO rules.

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Now you tell me....do the restrictions similarly end when the ball on a FT hits the flange?

Yes for an NCAA game.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by LDUB

Yes for an NCAA game.

I didn't ask about NCAA rules; I asked about NFHS rules. Your answer?

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I didn't ask about NCAA rules; I asked about NFHS rules.

You sure?

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Now you tell me....do the restrictions similarly end when the ball on a FT hits the flange?

I don't see you asking about any type of rules.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by LDUB

You sure?


I don't see you asking about any type of rules.

Those are the exact answers that I expected from you.

Billy knew what I was getting at. Obviously you didn't.

[FrankHtown]

I wish we had a shot clock in Texas. I'd be nice to slow the game down a bit.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The restrictions do end when the ball touches the backboard. That's a basic and Billy knew that. Now you tell me, do the restrictions similarly end when the ball on a FT hits the flange?

I decided to not be lazy with this. I went into the other room, got out my bag, got the rule book out of my bag, and came up with a citation, even though I already knew Jurassic Referee was correct about LDUB's question.
9-1-4: The restrictions apply until the ball touches the ring or backboard or until the free throw ends.
It looks like Connecticut IAABO, in their prep school rule differences, "missed the boat" on this one.

Flange?
1-10-1: Basket shall consist of a single metal ring, it's flange and braces, and a net.
This definition is precisely worded for basket interference situations, but it doesn't seem to work for free throw violations, which only refer to the ring. Has the NFHS "missed the boat" on this one? Would it be easier to add flange and net to the free throw violation wording, or to substitute the word "basket" instead or ring in the same portion of the rule book? Or, does the NFHS have a reason for not including the flange in the rule.

Jurassic Referee: Have you known about this NFHS inconsistency for a while, or did you just discover it. Has anyone on this Forum noticed this, and if so, has anyone with any authority, like an association, or board, interpreter, tried to correct this?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

1-10-1: Basket shall consist of a single metal ring, it's flange and braces, and a net.
This definition is precisely worded for basket interference situations, but it doesn't seem to work for free throw violations, which only refer to the ring. Has the NFHS "missed the boat" on this one? Would it be easier to add flange and net to the free throw violation wording, or to substitute the word "basket" instead or ring in the same portion of the rule book? Or, does the NFHS have a reason for not including the flange in the rule.

Jurassic Referee: Have you known about this NFHS inconsistency for a while, or did you just discover it.

Yup. I knew about the FED inconsistency but it just wasn't worth bothering about imo, Billy. I don't know how you could possibly have a ball hit just the flange with it also touching either the backboard or the ring at the same time. The ball is just too big to touch the flange only. The language difference is just inconsequential as far as I'm concerned. High school and NCAA officials call it exactly the same way anyway methinks.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Has the NFHS "missed the boat" on this one? Would it be easier to add flange and net to the free throw violation wording, or to substitute the word "basket" instead or ring in the same portion of the rule book?

If the ball hits the (outside of the) net without hitting the ring, it's pretty clear to me that the FT has ended.

[BillyMac]

[QUOTE=Jurassic Referee]The restrictions do end when the ball touches the backboard. QUOTE]

NFHS: Yes
NCAA: ????

NCAA officials. Please help.

[Jurassic Referee]

[QUOTE=BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The restrictions do end when the ball touches the backboard. QUOTE]

NFHS: Yes
NCAA: ????

NCAA officials. Please help.

NCAA is backboard, flange or ring. NFHS is backboard or ring.

[BillyMac]

[QUOTE=Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

NCAA is backboard, flange or ring. NFHS is backboard or ring.

Thank you.