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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 04:38pm
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It is a great way to have a patient whistle. If you hold off on blowing it, you will see the whole play which will help you make good decisions on plays.
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 04:42pm
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It is a great way to have a patient whistle. If you hold off on blowing it, you will see the whole play which will help you make good decisions on plays.
Lanyard or no lanyard, you still have your whistle in your mouth while play is going on, don't you? How would one method rather than the other insure a patient whistle?
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 04:42pm
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It is a great way to have a patient whistle. If you hold off on blowing it, you will see the whole play which will help you make good decisions on plays.
I'm sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense. How does not wearing a lanyard make you have a more patient whistle??

Most people I know who do this have been to one of the Coast-to-Coast Camps and come back with the idea...I tried it, didn't like it, so don't do it. Others like it and it works for them. C'est la vie.
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 04:46pm
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I do it in my lower-level Rec Leagues and my more actoin-less contests. Just something I do for me to keep my brain engaged and combat my A.D.D.
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 05:04pm
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I agree with JR and Rock. Live ball, shouldn't make any difference. I can buy the stuff about slowing down your mechanics, but why?

I see other problems with it. We verbally state the color and number of the fouler, so in a block situation where you give the signal at the point of the foul and your other hand is tied up, your verbal notice is late, if it comes at all. At the end of the period when you are signalling no shot (or after a foul in the same circumstance) and you want to verbalize it (which should be all the time), what do you do?

JR: you and I are agreeing on more and more things lately. What's the deal?
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 05:12pm
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I'm still workin no lan.

It slows me down after the call. I thought I could trick myself into wearing one and still slowing down, but I don't, I just speed right back up.

I don't however put it in my pocket. I've never put in my pocket and I won't.

I take that back, there are four occasions that I put iti n my pocket. full timeouts, if im tossing, on my way two/from locker room, and then during warmups.

I picked it up from an assignor I worked for my first year out the shoot.
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 05:18pm
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JR: you and I are agreeing on more and more things lately. What's the deal?
Are you wearing Depends Undergarments also?
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 05:30pm
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Are you wearing Depends Undergarments also?
Ouch. That's gonna leave a mark, too.
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Old Wed Feb 06, 2008, 06:01pm
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Ouch. That's gonna leave a mark, too.
Skidmark.

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Old Sun Feb 10, 2008, 12:31am
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I'm sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense. How does not wearing a lanyard make you have a more patient whistle??
Sorry DJ but I have to agree. Because you have to remember not to just let it drop after you blow it, you have to be more conscious of when you blow it.

I use it during AAU season to help stay away from bad habits but not during the regular season because it doesn't work with Precision Time.

As for spitting it across the floor, I've never seen anyone do that after they had mastered it. it doesn't take that many games to do so. For me, it was remembering to grab it when I started to talk to someone, not after I blew it.

If there are those that don't like it, fine. But there's no reason to sterotype/criticize those that do. it's just a preference.
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2008, 08:28am
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Sorry DJ but I have to agree. Because you have to remember not to just let it drop after you blow it, you have to be more conscious of when you blow it.
Sorry, Tony, but I have to disagree. No matter what, using either method you're still going to make the same call. With or without a lanyard, some plays still require a "patient" whistle. And some don't. You're still going to end up making the same call at the same time no matter what method you're using. Imo, there's just no difference if the whistle is in the mouth to start with.
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2008, 11:31am
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Sorry DJ but I have to agree. Because you have to remember not to just let it drop after you blow it, you have to be more conscious of when you blow it.

I use it during AAU season to help stay away from bad habits but not during the regular season because it doesn't work with Precision Time.

As for spitting it across the floor, I've never seen anyone do that after they had mastered it. it doesn't take that many games to do so. For me, it was remembering to grab it when I started to talk to someone, not after I blew it.

If there are those that don't like it, fine. But there's no reason to sterotype/criticize those that do. it's just a preference.

I started the thread out of curiosity why someone would NOT use a lanyard. I agree with JR, that patience is patience and is not dictated by lanyard or not. I have an official friend who has really mastered it, and I'm still amazed that he's that smooth although he does say from time to time, he drops it or bumbles it.

I prefer a smitty and someone asked me why the other night and I have to admit that a few years back, I was trying to emulate a few refs I admire.

I submit that's the main reason the no lanyard.........all style.
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2008, 01:41pm
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Habit ??

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I started the thread out of curiosity why someone would NOT use a lanyard. I submit that's the main reason the no lanyard, all style.
Or habit. We have about 280 officials on our local board. The few that go "lanyardless" are, for the most part, older, experienced, veterans. Maybe back in the 1960's, yes, we have some active officals who began their careers over 40 years ago, that's the way that they were taught?
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2008, 01:54pm
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I know there is one mistake I never make when I go sans lanyard that I make when I do have a lanyard:

Forgetting to put the whistle back in my mouth.

Seems at least once a season I forget to put the whistle in my mouth and I don't realize it still I have a foul call.
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Old Sun Feb 10, 2008, 02:34pm
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With Or Without Lanyard ...

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I know there is one mistake I never make when I go sans lanyard then I make when I do have a lanyard: Forgetting to put the whistle back in my mouth. Seems at least once a season I forget to put the whistle in my mouth and I don't realize it still I have a foul call.
I always wear a lanyard, and I have made the same mistake. Earlier this season, as the umpire, I found myself in front of the home bench to start the second period. Before my partner, the referee, put the ball into play at the division line, the head coach politely asked me a question about a play that had occurred at the horn to end the previous period. I gave him a short answer, and preceeded to begin the second period. Within seconds there was an intentional kick in my primary coverage area. I tried to blow my whistle for the violation to find that I never put it back into my mouth after answering the coach. By the time I found my whistle to put it back into my mouth, my partner had already blown her whistle. Embarrased? Yes. First time? No. Will it happen again? Probably.
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