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Originally Posted by mick

Sounds like you are pretty convinced that neither verticality nor traveling are rules, but merely judgement.
I won't dispute your opinion. I would rather avoid such a "prolonged discussion".

Obviously both are rules. However, you must judge if a player remains vertical. Traveling is normally more clear cut, but there are times I don't see things right in front of me.

I look at it as what would my explanation be to a legitimate question about the call. In either the foul or the traveling situation, I can simply say, "My partner had a different angle. You can ask him when he gets over here." In the scenario we're discussing here, that answer simply doesn't work.

It's not a huge deal, IMO, as this is something that rarely happens. But, if it happens in my (should be) competitive BV game tonight, I'm going to make sure we get it right.