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Old Sun Jan 27, 2008, 03:38pm
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3) TF charged directly to the VAR player, And the VAR player's name will have to be added to the roster when it is submitted prior to the ten minute mark.

4) If one of those VAR players dunks the ball after the ten minute mark, TF charged directly to the VAR player, TF charged indirectly to the JV head coach (and he loses the coaching box if the game is in a state where the coaching box is used), adminstrative TF charged to the JV team for adding a player to its roster after the ten minute mark (the VAR player's name has to be added to the roster). .
I agree with everything you said except these things. I'm not sure I disagree with these, but I'm trying to figure out where you came up with them. Is this a 2-3 thing?
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Old Sun Jan 27, 2008, 03:44pm
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I agree with everything you said except these things. I'm not sure I disagree with these, but I'm trying to figure out where you came up with them. Is this a 2-3 thing?

Juulie:

I don't necessarily disagree with you. You are charging a player with TF, so his name should end up in the book is the logic I am using. Having said that if a ruling comes down that we are not to put the players name in the book, I can live with that too. I think it is just a speed bump among the mountains of life.

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Juulie:

I don't necessarily disagree with you. You are charging a player with TF, so his name should end up in the book is the logic I am using. Having said that if a ruling comes down that we are not to put the players name in the book, I can live with that too. I think it is just a speed bump among the mountains of life.

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Yea, putting a senior's name into the book, which will now force JV game to be forfeit perhaps, well, that's not a battle I'm willing to fight. Call the T, coach A gets the seatbelt, team B starts the game with two shots and the ball, that's enough to get the coach yelling at those idiot varsity players, imo. Maybe next time he'll be paying more attention to what's happening on his own end of the court.
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Old Sun Jan 27, 2008, 03:54pm
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Yea, putting a senior's name into the book, which will now force JV game to be forfeit perhaps, well, that's not a battle I'm willing to fight. Call the T, coach A gets the seatbelt, team B starts the game with two shots and the ball, that's enough to get the coach yelling at those idiot varsity players, imo. Maybe next time he'll be paying more attention to what's happening on his own end of the court.

Juulie:

How would putting a senior's name in the JV book cause a forfeit?

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Old Sun Jan 27, 2008, 04:09pm
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Call the T, coach A gets the seatbelt, team B starts the game with two shots and the ball, that's enough to get the coach yelling at those idiot varsity players, imo. Maybe next time he'll be paying more attention to what's happening on his own end of the court.
You recommend calling a team technical foul and you want to seatbelt the coach also?

Juulie, the head coach is responsible for his team. Game administration is responsible for everybody else. It's that simple.
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Old Sun Jan 27, 2008, 04:14pm
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You recommend calling a team technical foul and you want to seatbelt the coach also?

Juulie, the head coach is responsible for his team. Game administration is responsible for everybody else. It's that simple.
Well, with a team T, don't you have to give the seatbelt?

Hhmmm, I'll take that up with my commish. I've been told differently. I just don't see how home management can be responsible for visiting varsity players. And again I ask, are the var players allowed, as long as they don't break the rules?
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Old Sun Jan 27, 2008, 04:23pm
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Well, with a team T, don't you have to give the seatbelt?

Hhmmm, I'll take that up with my commish. I've been told differently.
I can't believe that your commish told you that. There is NEVER a seatbelt with a team "T".
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Old Sun Jan 27, 2008, 04:27pm
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I can't believe that your commish told you that. There is NEVER a seatbelt with a team "T".
Okay, I didn't put that stuff in to the post correctly.

Commish didn't tell me there is always a seatbelt with a team T. You KNOW he would never say anything that incorrect.

What Commish told me was that I'd handled the var dunking in a JV warm-up correctly. I see what you mean about the team T. I was thinking a bench T. always a seatbelt with a bench T. so I guess he was figuring to treat them as bench personnel, since he didn't have a problem with the seatbelt.
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