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Old Wed Jan 23, 2008, 08:31am
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I just heard this story last night. It happened this season, but I forget the schools involved. NCAA D3 game.

Team A (visitors) is down by 2 near the end of the 2nd half. A1 shoots a successful 3-pointer to take a 1-point lead. Clock properly stops at 0.6 seconds after the successful field goal. A6, thinking the game was over, runs off the bench to congratulate A1 on the 3-pointer, interfering with B2 who had just received the throw-in pass. Trail official calls the technical foul for delay as the horn sounds ending the period. Lead and Center official think the whistle is to end the period and run off the court to the locker room. Trail realizes the game is not over -- so leaves the court to get his partners from the locker room.

Referee -- who was already in the locker room -- rules that the game is over as all officials have left the visual confines of the court. The home AD comes to the locker room to ask if the Trail had a technical foul. He says yes, but there's nothing he can do about it now. AD is not pleased. The game has been appealed to the conference office.

Ouch. This was NOT my game last night, btw!! LOL
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2008, 10:00am
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I just heard this story last night. It happened this season, but I forget the schools involved. NCAA D3 game.

Team A (visitors) is down by 2 near the end of the 2nd half. A1 shoots a successful 3-pointer to take a 1-point lead. Clock properly stops at 0.6 seconds after the successful field goal. A6, thinking the game was over, runs off the bench to congratulate A1 on the 3-pointer, interfering with B2 who had just received the throw-in pass. Trail official calls the technical foul for delay as the horn sounds ending the period. Lead and Center official think the whistle is to end the period and run off the court to the locker room. Trail realizes the game is not over -- so leaves the court to get his partners from the locker room.

Referee -- who was already in the locker room -- rules that the game is over as all officials have left the visual confines of the court. The home AD comes to the locker room to ask if the Trail had a technical foul. He says yes, but there's nothing he can do about it now. AD is not pleased. The game has been appealed to the conference office.

Ouch. This was NOT my game last night, btw!! LOL
HAHHAAHHAHAH Too funny.

In my mind, the R did the right thing - follow the rules. If a reversal is in order, let the league deal with it. The crew should expect a suspension, imho.
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2008, 10:02am
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We had this happen a couple of years ago in a JUCO (Woman's) Christmas tourney before we switched back to FIBA rules.

NCAA rules. Team wins by 1 and off to the tourney final. Winning coach, who has a history as having a loose screw, says something to the officials is assessed a T. Opponents hit 2 for 2 on the FT and win the game. This team ends up 4th in this tourney and the coach ends up not getting his contract renewed at that school.
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Old Wed Jan 23, 2008, 10:58am
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We had this happen a couple of years ago in a JUCO (Woman's) Christmas tourney before we switched back to FIBA rules.

NCAA rules. Team wins by 1 and off to the tourney final. Winning coach, who has a history as having a loose screw, says something to the officials is assessed a T. Opponents hit 2 for 2 on the FT and win the game. This team ends up 4th in this tourney and the coach ends up not getting his contract renewed at that school.
That is a VERY big piece of humble pie!
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2008, 07:57am
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Lead and Center official think the whistle is to end the period and run off the court to the locker room. Trail realizes the game is not over -- so leaves the court to get his partners from the locker room.
Assuming the R was lead/center here, wouldn't the game have been over even if the trail sent security to the locker room to retrieve the other officials? 2-4.4?
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2008, 08:05am
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2-2-4 The jurisdiction of the officials' is terminated and the final score has been approved when all officials leave the visual confines of the playing area.

In 2-5-7 the referee is given the authority to check and approve the score at the end of each half, but if he doesn't actually go to the book and approve the score after the game, the way I read it, the score isn't approved until all the officials leave the confines.
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2008, 08:46am
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Assuming the R was lead/center here, wouldn't the game have been over even if the trail sent security to the locker room to retrieve the other officials? 2-4.4?
You're absolutely correct. I realized this while discussing the play with my crew before our game last night. I had erroneously thought that the NCAAM rule was the same as the NFHS rule; but it's not. We pulled out the NCAA book to double-check.

NFHS and NCAAW -- Game is over when all three officials leave the visual confines.

NCAAM -- Game is over when the Referee leaves the visual confines.
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Old Fri Jan 25, 2008, 09:20am
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You're absolutely correct. I realized this while discussing the play with my crew before our game last night. I had erroneously thought that the NCAAM rule was the same as the NFHS rule; but it's not. We pulled out the NCAA book to double-check.

NFHS and NCAAW -- Game is over when all three officials leave the visual confines.

NCAAM -- Game is over when the Referee leaves the visual confines.
Good call...was looking at it from an NFHS perspective, not NCAA-M.
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