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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 10:51am
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For me it depends. First of all, your whistle is a tool during situations like this. Blowing your whistle several times in someone's ear is very annoying and could end the situation. Other than that, if the fight is in full swing I would be hesitant to jump in to break it up. However, given the right circumstance this is my opportunity to grab a trouble-maker and see how far I can toss him! J/K
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 12:12pm
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For me it depends. First of all, your whistle is a tool during situations like this. Blowing your whistle several times in someone's ear is very annoying and could end the situation. Other than that, if the fight is in full swing I would be hesitant to jump in to break it up. However, given the right circumstance this is my opportunity to grab a trouble-maker and see how far I can toss him! J/K
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 12:24pm
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we do 2 man here -

if a fight actually breaks out and 2 teams are going at it all you can do as an official is sit back and take note of who throws punches and who leaves the bench. Let the coaches and game management get the fight under control.

The only time I step between is in the time before something happens when there still is a chance to cool things off.

I would usually cover one team and my partner would cover the rest -- once the dust settles we would have to come together and decide who is getting tossed and how we move forward.

What else can we do -- jump in the middle of the fracas to try and break it up -- who then will take note of the benches and players involved?
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 12:26pm
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we do 2 man here -

if a fight actually breaks out and 2 teams are going at it all you can do as an official is sit back and take note of who throws punches and who leaves the bench. Let the coaches and game management get the fight under control.

The only time I step between is in the time before something happens when there still is a chance to cool things off.

I would usually cover one team and my partner would cover the rest -- once the dust settles we would have to come together and decide who is getting tossed and how we move forward.

What else can we do -- jump in the middle of the fracas to try and break it up -- who then will take note of the benches and players involved?
When put this way...I can take the position of sitting back...I guess I hadn't really disected the whole thing and what would have to happen after the fight was brokent up...
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 12:43pm
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Help a brother out...

... when and if a fight breaks out while I'm officiating I will stand back and watch -- taking numbers.

Question: Should the first thing I do once things break out is summon coaches? It seems they will have an inherent ability to get their players under control and that I would want them there to break things up. If I don't summon them, they risk ejection if they had any 'priors' during the game, right?

Or, can I fall back on an 'assumed' summoning of personnel to quell.

So, say Coach from Team A received a technical in the first half for some chirping related incident. In the 2nd half, Players A1 and B1 tangle near mid-court. Both coaches rush out and grab their players to prevent escalation.

I did not summon them onto the court. I would assess double flagrant fouls on A1 and B1. They are gone. I could assess Technical fouls on the coaches for coming onto the floor, even though their presence was critical lets say for keeping things from escalating. Or could we get together and say that we did summon them, or choose to ignore. (btw - these both sound like a cop out)

So my question is, do I want coaches out quickly in this situation, and if so, is the default move, while stepping aside to observe, to summon coaches??

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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 12:46pm
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once an altercation has begun and a coach runs out to break it up-- whether I actually summon a coach or not -- I consider him on the court legally and I will not take any action against him.
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Old Mon Jan 21, 2008, 01:08pm
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Cool to see all the replies, but my question really wasn't answered. If I am student athletic trainer, not on the bench (sitting by the admins) and I run out and break up the fight, along with the coaches and admins, would I be at risk for anything that involves the team anything?
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