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9 techs in 37 games is not good. When I first started out I had similar numbers. Perhaps it's nerves, or the hyper-alertness felt when doing something new. It goes away. Relax. The more you work, the more opportunities you'll have to deal with coaches and players. You will develop the skills needed to talk and diffuse situations. Your vet refs were talking at you in a poor attempt to give you advice. But it was advice for your benefit. Yes, I was told I brought attention to myself on the floor. Your techs tonight seem justified as you describe them, although I probably would have tried to talk the coach back to his bench first. The assignor-coach conversation went like this: "He's young, he's new, he'll learn. Don't worry, I'll talk to him." And then the coach fibbed. Happens. Seek out some other vets for game management pointers. The first tip: Don't react immediately; take a breath. 37 games is nothing to base a career on. You don't even know what you're doing yet. 
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Fri Jan 18, 2008, 03:16am
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I agree with that completely. I should note that a lot of those T's are delay of game tech's and administrative technicals. Coaches forgetting to enter names in books, etc. I tend to get a lot of lower level games both in playing ability and coaching. I know it's because I'm new. I have no problem with that.
I did try and talk the coach back to his bench...his reply was the "stop sign" with his hand. I do agree with you however, that they were trying to help. The tact was horrible...but the intent was there. I realize that now that I've had time to think about it. 37 games is nothing to base a career on...but it is something to come to a realization...and that realization is what you just told me in your post. It's almost as if I'm starting over It's one thing to read the rules and know them well, but it's another to go out there and use them. That comes with time...thats the realization I'm getting.
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Fri Jan 18, 2008, 03:39am
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Numbers of T's vs games worked doesn't matter.
Your vets probably don't remember what it's like at the lower levels, varsity coaches don't behave on a whole the way the lower level coaches do...you aren't that experienced and neither are they. You unlike the coach is required to deal with unsporting behavior. If the T's you are giving are all reacting to behavior than don't sweat it...now if you are initiating communications, giving ultimatums, that sort of things that can be an issue. My guess is with vets mentoring as you described, you may be dealing with the back lash of nobody else taking care of business and coaches running amuck. There have been very few T's I've given out where I questioned myself for giving them. The times I've lost sleep over not giving one is far more common. My rule of thumb is this: Did it make the game better? I tossed a youth coach last Saturday. His team went on an 8-2 run right after and ended up winning a 1 point game, with no problems the rest of the way.
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Fri Jan 18, 2008, 03:59am
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I can understand this situation from both sides. There's a really good litmus test to use when evaluating your response's appropriateness objectively which is:
- Did the response fit the game/situation? - Did the response help the game? - Can your assignor/supervisor defend the response? I think that this is a really good learning experience for you that I wish I had so early in my career. Games do not happen in a vaccum, and the schools are essentially "clients" of the assignor. More often than not, any game where Ts are thrown, the assignor will get a phone call from the coach where essentially your punitive action will be "put on trial." In this case, with the assignor there, it all happened at the gym and you saw the process. Clearly your responses failed the litmus test, so the best you can do is learn from the situation. Did the assignor or the other varsity refs act appropriately? Not necessarily. I don't really think ripping a young ref at halftime about Ts is necessarily the best response, nor did it put you in a situation to learn from what happened. That part of it seemed rather self-serving to me, especially the other V ref throwing in his two cents about you "glorifying" yourself. I bet you had trouble moving on to the 2nd half of that game confidently. My suggestion is to let the smoke clear a little bit and in the next couple of days, put in a phone call to the assignor, in a less emotional state, and ask him what he saw, and what he would've done in your shoes. If a tape is available, ask to maybe buy him a beer and watch the game tape with him so that you can learn from the game, and bottom line, listen to what he has to say, no arguing or defending. At the very least, try to get a copy of the tape yourself so that you can determine what led to this and what you can do better next time. It is from these type of events that we find out the most about ourselves and we can gain the most amount of improvement. Between now and then, think about what you could have done to handle the 1st T better, keeping in mind the litmus test and the idea that we shouldn't seek closure or the last word.
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Fri Jan 18, 2008, 03:38pm
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From your blog I see you want to improve - even at that you're ahead of many guys out there. Patience (with yourself, and your assignors.)
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Fri Jan 18, 2008, 04:08am
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A few years ago, I had gone an entire season without one, my partner only had called one, and in a course of 3 games I had 1 each on a player and coach, 1 on a player, and the last game 3 players and a coach. So which is it? I'm a great game manager with zero in 30 games or I completely became a tech happy bully with 7 in 3 games? FYI, that means I called 7 in 33 games, so I guess I have a problem too. 
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Fri Jan 18, 2008, 04:58am
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Here are my thoughts:
Your assignor has no backbone. Your local V official is an weak-willed sissy that's why he gets varsity games from that assignor. Team B's coach is a jack@ss. If I had been sitting in the fifth row behind the bench and observed you, I would have stood up and applauded as the coach walked out. Keep taking care of business and don't worry about the opinions of those who don't.
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Fri Jan 18, 2008, 05:32am
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What the OP did was absolutely warranted. Lower level coaches are used to getting officials that can't or won't take care of business. Instead of listening to the OP and directing his players to knock it off, the coach baited you into calling technical number 1. By giving you the Heisman, he told the OP he was irrelevant and that he was going to do whatever he liked. I would've gotten dressed and left and not said anything to the assignor. Back then. Today I would've told him exactly what I thought of him and then backed up the bus and ran it over him again. And then, if the state is involved in picking the assignor, I'd probably send a report to them, as well. I've done this once before (in another state) when I ejected our baseball assignor coaching a basketball game and he threatened my schedule. In a year, he was gone from both jobs.
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Fri Jan 18, 2008, 06:44am
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There was no reason for the assignor to get involved in the first place unless he received a complaint. And if he did get a complaint, the facts of the situation deem that the official should have been backed to the hilt. The coach got a righteous "T". He was rightfully seatbelted. And now he think that he can still wander around all over the damn floor? No f'ing way! Your assignor and Mr. Veteran Official really, really need to grow a new crop. You'll be around when both of them are gone, NM_Ref.
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Fri Jan 18, 2008, 08:20am
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I want to second my Amen to what Nevada and JR said in their posts. I would say that you handled both situations with HC-B correctly. HC-B decided to take all the rope that he needed to hang himself. MTD, Sr.
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Fri Jan 18, 2008, 08:56am
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Your assignor demonstrated absolutely terrible leadership and management by doing what he did. I know I'm also a new official, but...
The coach's retort when you attempted to warn his bench seems to me that it warranted the T, especially since you weren't even warning the coach directly. It didn't come out of a confrontation between the two of you. The stop-sign is completely out of line, again IMO.
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Last season, I had 2 baseball ejections all season. The year before I had 9. So I guess I was bad one season and better the next. GMAFB. I can't control whether I have an idiot standing on the sideline or in the dugout - I can only control if he gets to stick around.
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Fri Jan 18, 2008, 06:37pm
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Fri Jan 18, 2008, 09:17pm
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Had these 9 Ts come in varsity games, I might wonder about the OP. For middle school, frosh/JV type games, he seems right on the mark. Also, I think it's better to have a rookie who calls too many Ts than one who never penalizes unsporting behavior at all.
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