Whaddya got?

[WhistlesAndStripes]

You hodl the captains conference at center court, about 3 minutes before tipoff. at, you go with your partners to meet the visiting coach. As you finish up with him and head to the home bench for introductions, the head coach turns and leaves the gym. This is a coach with a history of problems. Already had multiple Ts assessed against him this year, and been ejected once.

What, if anything, would you do?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

You hodl the captains conference at center court, about 3 minutes before tipoff. at, you go with your partners to meet the visiting coach. As you finish up with him and head to the home bench for introductions, the head coach turns and leaves the gym. This is a coach with a history of problems. Already had multiple Ts assessed against him this year, and been ejected once.

What, if anything, would you do?

If it's required to meet with him, then wait until he comes back and then meet with him. Delay the game, if needed. Write the state.

If it's not required to meet with him, ignore it.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If it's required to meet with him, then wait until he comes back and then meet with him. Delay the game, if needed. Write the state.

If it's not required to meet with him, ignore it.

You can't ignore him if you got one in your pocket for him. If you do then chase him down and kindly ask him to stay, the game just won't be the same without him there.

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

You hodl the captains conference at center court, about 3 minutes before tipoff. at, you go with your partners to meet the visiting coach. As you finish up with him and head to the home bench for introductions, the head coach turns and leaves the gym. This is a coach with a history of problems. Already had multiple Ts assessed against him this year, and been ejected once.

What, if anything, would you do?

Prepare myself for a long, painful experience.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

You hodl the captains conference at center court

Does that mean you give them each one of these?

[Tio]

The coach waived his right to a meeting then.

No tolerance for coaching box, bench decorum with this clown.

[Scrapper1]

I agree with Bob. If you're required to meet him, then do it. Otherwise, ignore him. He's just trying to play mind games with you. Showing his "dominance" by getting you to wait around for him.

That goes in the same category as the stare down. Psychological warfare with a mental midget.

[Nevadaref]

Maybe he really had to GO!

[WhistlesAndStripes]

The crew went over and exchanged pleasantries with the assistant, and life went on. Ater thinking about it some more, one of them said that if he had it to do over again, he would have whacked him for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Thoughts on that?

[Junker]

If memory serves, and I'm going to check on this, in my area if a coach does not attend the pregame meeting, they cannot use the coaching box or request a time out. Basically they are treated as an assistant. I think they talked about his at one of our meetings recently.

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by Junker

If memory serves, and I'm going to check on this, in my area if a coach does not attend the pregame meeting, they cannot use the coaching box or request a time out. Basically they are treated as an assistant. I think they talked about his at one of our meetings recently.

I like this!! So then does it work in reverse as well, does the assistant who attends the pregame meeting get the box or does nobody? NF only states that you must verify with the head coach that his team is properly equipped, but doesn't say that you must do that during the pregame meeting....honestly I am not sure what the "policy" is on this in our state, JRut must know this...I have never run into this issue though, never known a coach to WANT to alienate officials before the game even starts...

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Personally, I do not want the coaches that the captains' meeting. From a historical stand point, captains not coaches the the team leaders. And there are coaches out there that are not going to like hearing me tell his/her captain that:

1) He/she is in charge of the team from the head coach down to the last priest, rabbi, nun, witch doctor, orthopedic surgeon, and anybody else that is considered bench personnel by the team. This does not mean that the head coach is not in charge of bench personnel, because he is, it just means he is subordinate to the team captain, and that if the head coach cannot control his bench then his captain will.

2) He/she is in charge of his/her teammates on the court.

3) If the head coach does not break the huddle on the first horn during the first timeout of the game, I expect them to break the huddle and that they are to start breaking the huddle on the first horn of each timeout from then on during the game.

MTD, Sr.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

1) He/she is in charge of the team from the head coach down to the last priest, rabbi, nun, witch doctor, orthopedic surgeon, and anybody else that is considered bench personnel by the team. This does not mean that the head coach is not in charge of bench personnel, because he is, it just means he is subordinate to the team captain, and that if the head coach cannot control his bench then his captain will.

Meadow muffins. Are you going to assess an indirect technical foul to the captain if there is a T charged to bench personnel? No.

That paragraph is a lovely picture, a nice ideal; but it's simply not reality. The coach is NEVER subordinate to the team captain and the captain is NEVER responsible for the behavior of the bench. Why spout all that?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Meadow muffins. Are you going to assess an indirect technical foul to the captain if there is a T charged to bench personnel? No.

That paragraph is a lovely picture, a nice ideal; but it's simply not reality. The coach is NEVER subordinate to the team captain and the captain is NEVER responsible for the behavior of the bench. Why spout all that?

Scrapper:

MEADOW MUFFINS!! Is that like a Crock of Horse Manure?

MTD, Sr.


P.S. I had a long weekend and I really don't feel like going into a long discourse but trust me on this one, because I could write a fairly long article on this subject but the history of who can request a timeout and who could and could not talk to the players on the court during a timeout is a good example as to why the captain and not the coach who is in charge of the team. And you know I would never steer you wrong.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by kbilla

honestly I am not sure what the "policy" is on this in our state, JRut must know this...I have never run into this issue though, never known a coach to WANT to alienate officials before the game even starts...

The IHSA State Policy is for all head coaches to attend the all sportsmanship meetings. If they do not do this, then we have the right or obligation to write them up with a Special Report. So it is mandatory for this meeting to involve the coaches and captains. And we have been doing this before there was a policy with the NF based on some inappropriate comments that were made by an official and the meeting has to take place near or right in front of the scorer's table (not near mid-court).

Peace