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Old Thu Jan 10, 2008, 09:32am
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The best way to minimize side effects is to use as little as possible to achieve the desired effect.
I read recently that there are studies showing growing "abuse" of NSAIDs by high school football players before games. The thinking seems to be to load up on the stuff pre-game as a sort of pre-emptive treatment. And if one helps with the aches after the game, then 5 or 6 before the game should help cut down on even getting the aches.
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Old Thu Jan 10, 2008, 02:18pm
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I read recently that there are studies showing growing "abuse" of NSAIDs by high school football players before games. The thinking seems to be to load up on the stuff pre-game as a sort of pre-emptive treatment. And if one helps with the aches after the game, then 5 or 6 before the game should help cut down on even getting the aches.
Well, there is some truth to that.

After a major knee injury in 2003, I continued to have, at various times, other troubles with various parts of my lower legs (shins, ankles, arches). I found that if I take one dose of advil before my game, I tend to have no post game pain. However, if I skip the pregame dose, even several postgame doeses (appropriatly spaced) don't do much, if anything...stuff still hurts....and hurts for 2-3 days. So, I chose 1 dose per game instead of 4-6 doses.

So, one pregame dose prevents whatever was hurting from hurting (probably by preventing the inflammation at all) where the postgame dosing was too late, the inflamation was already there and the advil would reduce but not eliminate it.

DISCLAIMER: I am not a doctor, just sharing what I do.....many medications have acceptable dosing that is above what is on the label. Some, but not all, have dosing limits based on weight. To fit everyone, OTC medications such as advil have "adult" maximum dosages based on "small" adults....about 100#. If you look up advil in a medical drug book, the maximum dose for a 200# person is, IIRC, twice the amount printed on the label....4 tablets, 3 times per day for a limited time (the more you take and the longer you take it, the greater the risk of harm). That said, a person should still NOT take more than it takes to be effective.
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Old Thu Jan 10, 2008, 02:44pm
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After a major knee injury in 2003, I continued to have, at various times, other troubles with various parts of my lower legs (shins, ankles, arches). I found that if I take one dose of advil before my game, I tend to have no post game pain. However, if I skip the pregame dose, even several postgame doeses (appropriatly spaced) don't do much, if anything...stuff still hurts....and hurts for 2-3 days. So, I chose 1 dose per game instead of 4-6 doses.

So, one pregame dose prevents whatever was hurting from hurting (probably by preventing the inflammation at all) where the postgame dosing was too late, the inflamation was already there and the advil would reduce but not eliminate it.
I've had pretty much the exact same experience this year. The last two years I've had moderate to severe shin pain due to fallen arches. New orthopedic arch supports have made a world of difference this year, but I still have some pain.

The key I finally found was taking ibuprofen prior to the game. I've had little to no problems since, except on the game days I forget to do so. Then I'm sore for 2 or 3 days afterwards.

No idea how or why it works, but I'm going to keep at it.
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Old Thu Jan 10, 2008, 02:57pm
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Like Camron and JDW I've been on to that trick for a couple years also. I learned it from playing in tennis tournaments where I would have to shut it down and get it going again up to 4 x a day.....
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Old Thu Jan 10, 2008, 03:24pm
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Like Camron and JDW I've been on to that trick for a couple years also. I learned it from playing in tennis tournaments where I would have to shut it down and get it going again up to 4 x a day.....
Orthopod turned me on to that trick a few years back - I take an 800mg ibuprofen 2-3 hours before game start time & that usually does the trick.
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Old Fri Jan 11, 2008, 12:43am
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Orthopod turned me on to that trick a few years back - I take an 800mg ibuprofen 2-3 hours before game start time & that usually does the trick.
1000 for me. I take 5 of the over the counter ones before I leave and it holds up. My dislocated kneecap has healed slowly, but I'm finally feeling about 100%.
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Old Thu Jan 10, 2008, 04:47pm
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No idea how or why it works, but I'm going to keep at it.
It works by preventing inflammation, which helps keep the tissue from being exposed to irritation and rubbing against things they shouldn't be. As long as you stretch well before your activity, and then cool down appropriately, it's a good way to "play through" an injury that's in the healing process. At least, that's what my dr. says.
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Old Fri Jan 11, 2008, 12:26am
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Things went pretty good tonight. I arrived at my game about 15 minutes earlier than I usually would. I was able to track down the trainer and ask her if she would tape my ankle..."no problem," she said.

I was scheduled to work a JV/V girls game. The JV game went fine and I had no problems. About 3 minutes into the 2nd quarter of the V game, I started to feel a little pain. I remember thinking "oh boy...I hope this doesn't last" -- it didn't.

Although I was extremely careful throughout the night. I was glad I had it taped, just in case.

Back at it tomorrow evening!
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Old Fri Jan 11, 2008, 12:42am
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I am glad you are feeling better. Take care of yourself so you do not re-injure your ankle.

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Old Fri Jan 11, 2008, 01:26am
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Things went pretty good tonight. I arrived at my game about 15 minutes earlier than I usually would. I was able to track down the trainer and ask her if she would tape my ankle..."no problem," she said.

I was scheduled to work a JV/V girls game. The JV game went fine and I had no problems. About 3 minutes into the 2nd quarter of the V game, I started to feel a little pain. I remember thinking "oh boy...I hope this doesn't last" -- it didn't.

Although I was extremely careful throughout the night. I was glad I had it taped, just in case.

Back at it tomorrow evening!
Like Jeff said, I'm glad you did well. I hope you took the tape off after the game, re-iced, re-elevated, and then re-compress for the night. Get it taped again before your game tomorrow. Gee, do I sound like a mother?!?
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Old Sat Jan 12, 2008, 02:50pm
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Thanks to those Forum members who kindly shared information about the various types of anti-inflamatory, and pain-relief drugs.

After fifty-four years of playing sports, running, bicycling, and officiating, I'm very fortuate to have avoided major sports injuries, however, a few years ago, I noticed that I was often "sore" getting out of bed the morning after officiating the night before. So, I started keeping aspirin in my bag, and take two before each game (no stomach problems). I'm not as "sore" the next day, and although I don't have a cholesterol problem, I also like the fact that the aspirin has some anticoagulative properties.
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