I'm moving:(

[gordon30307]

I'm not an evaluator nor am I qualified to be one. To measure the quality of an Official there seems to be (there might be other factors) four components:

Judgement
Rules Knowledge
Mechanics
Game Management

You can observe mechanics and you can test rules knowledge but judgement and game management are subjective. This is where the new (to the area) experienced guy has to prove himself. It might take a season to gain the trust of the assignor. Then again if you're battling the good ole boys............

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by gordon30307

You can observe mechanics and you can test rules knowledge but judgement and game management are subjective. This is where the new (to the area) experienced guy has to prove himself. It might take a season to gain the trust of the assignor. Then again if you're battling the good ole boys............

Here is what I love about our system. If an assignor likes you, they hire you. Of course they give the song and dance, "If you work my lower level games then you might get a shot......." That is really not true at all. If you can work and you go to camp and prove it, you will get hired if you have talent and someone sees it. I know a few people that transferred in and got varsity games right off the bat. There is nothing preventing someone from getting hired but the assignor and in some cases other officials that ask for a partner to come along. The only thing you might have a hard time to face is getting a playoff game and that is because the state runs that system and decides how much of your experience they will consider in that process. Or the state will decide how long it will take you to get promoted to the top level. And in many cases it takes those individuals a much shorter time to get to the Certified level (the highest level but not a requirement to work post season games). The more and more I read the happier that I am where I am.

Peace

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Here is what I love about our system. If an assignor likes you, they hire you. Of course they give the song and dance, "If you work my lower level games then you might get a shot......." That is really not true at all. If you can work and you go to camp and prove it, you will get hired if you have talent and someone sees it. I know a few people that transferred in and got varsity games right off the bat. There is nothing preventing someone from getting hired but the assignor and in some cases other officials that ask for a partner to come along. The only thing you might have a hard time to face is getting a playoff game and that is because the state runs that system and decides how much of your experience they will consider in that process. Or the state will decide how long it will take you to get promoted to the top level. And in many cases it takes those individuals a much shorter time to get to the Certified level (the highest level but not a requirement to work post season games). The more and more I read the happier that I am where I am.

Peace

Rut, I can tell you for a fact that you can add Southern Nevada, the DC area (except Northern Virginia) and Mississippi to areas similar to yours. If you can work, you work. The only thing different would be those areas handle playoffs differently from your area. I can see where things might slow down when because of the playoff system you have in place.
I must be fortunate to only be places where what I do on the floor matters the most. If someone came here and was qualified I would ask to work with them. Shoot, why shouldn't I? The assignor could make someone qualified the U2 on all my games and I would laugh all the way home. Why wouldn't I want to benefit from working with someone good?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Rut, I can tell you for a fact that you can add Southern Nevada, the DC area (except Northern Virginia) and Mississippi to areas similar to yours. If you can work, you work. The only thing different would be those areas handle playoffs differently from your area. I can see where things might slow down when because of the playoff system you have in place.

The reason that is where I live, associations do not give games. If they do, they open themselves up for violating independent contractor laws and might be liable for more than they are willing to be. Assignors are hired by the conferences and if the assignor likes you, that is all that matters. What I am reading from this post is that these are policies from associations or groups of officials. And that lends to more rules that should not apply. Our local associations are for training and training only. Yes there are assignor that might attach themselves to an association closely, but there are no by-laws that dictate who works and when. There might be by-laws that affect membership, but membership in an association (or level of membership) does not affect how you are hired.

Peace

[gordon30307]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Here is what I love about our system. If an assignor likes you, they hire you. Of course they give the song and dance, "If you work my lower level games then you might get a shot......." That is really not true at all. If you can work and you go to camp and prove it, you will get hired if you have talent and someone sees it. I know a few people that transferred in and got varsity games right off the bat. There is nothing preventing someone from getting hired but the assignor and in some cases other officials that ask for a partner to come along. The only thing you might have a hard time to face is getting a playoff game and that is because the state runs that system and decides how much of your experience they will consider in that process. Or the state will decide how long it will take you to get promoted to the top level. And in many cases it takes those individuals a much shorter time to get to the Certified level (the highest level but not a requirement to work post season games). The more and more I read the happier that I am where I am.

Peace

Where's the Appy State Score

Just having some fun.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by gordon30307

Where's the Appy State Score

Just having some fun.

You have to at the very least beat us before you can talk crap. I told you this at the meeting I am telling you this now. Score more than 10 points against USC before you talk.

Peace

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You have to at the very least beat us before you can talk crap.

All Bowl games results under Lloyd Carr's regime. SEC who???

2008 Michigan 41, Florida 35
2002 Michigan 38, Florida 30
2001 Tennessee 45, Michigan 17
2000 Michigan 31, Auburn 28
1999 Michigan 35, Alabama 34 (OT)
1998 Michigan 45, Arkansas 31

BTW, Ohio State is 0-8 against the SEC in Bowl Games.Peace

And what is the actual record between OSU and UM for the same ten years you reference?