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Old Mon Dec 31, 2007, 04:12pm
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So if someone moved to Portland after doing playoffs and/or state finals in another state they wouldn't have a full varsity schedule?

Is there a transfers scrimmage or anything like that? That is pretty rough. You are shattering my dream of working for Nike when I retire (for the first time).
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Old Mon Dec 31, 2007, 04:14pm
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So if someone moved to Portland after doing playoffs and/or state finals in another state they wouldn't have a full varsity schedule?

Is there a transfers scrimmage or anything like that? That is pretty rough. You are shattering my dream of working for Nike when I retire (for the first time).
You could interleave your college games with those freshman girls games for a season or two. After all, retirement should be about taking it easy, shouldn't it?
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Old Mon Dec 31, 2007, 08:02pm
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just remember, you won't be able to pump your own gas.
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just remember, you won't be able to pump your own gas.
Not only won't you be "able to" - it's actually illegal if you do. Gotta love a state in which it's illegal to pump your own gas but it's legal to assist a suicide for medical reasons. Actually, I like both laws.

Oh yeah - marijuana is "almost" legal, too. Why do you think guys like to be drafted by the Blazers?
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Old Mon Dec 31, 2007, 11:39pm
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It's illegal to pump your own gas?

Wow.........
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Old Tue Jan 01, 2008, 12:14am
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It's illegal to pump your own gas?

Wow.........
Oregon and (I think) New Jersey. The only reason to keep the law is to prevent the loss of jobs if stations were allowed to go self-service. I think it's hilarious.

Mark, how do you teach your kids to pump gas? Or do you just tell them never to get gas outside of Oregon?
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Oregon and (I think) New Jersey. The only reason to keep the law is to prevent the loss of jobs if stations were allowed to go self-service. I think it's hilarious.

Mark, how do you teach your kids to pump gas? Or do you just tell them never to get gas outside of Oregon?
They get jobs at service stations. DUH!
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Old Tue Jan 01, 2008, 01:04pm
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Mark, how do you teach your kids to pump gas? Or do you just tell them never to get gas outside of Oregon?
One of my neighbors works across the Columbia in Vancouver, WA. He makes sure he stops on the Oregon side of the river to get gas. Of course, he doesn't buy anything on the Washington side to save the sales tax, too.

Actually, there is a situation here in Oregon in which you pump your own gas. It's at those commercial card-lock stations. That's the only place, however.

BTW - every time someone tries to get the law changed, they get smacked upside the head by all the Fire Marshals in the state.
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BTW - every time someone tries to get the law changed, they get smacked upside the head by all the Fire Marshals in the state.
Seriously? Unreal.
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So if someone moved to Portland after doing playoffs and/or state finals in another state they wouldn't have a full varsity schedule?

Is there a transfers scrimmage or anything like that? That is pretty rough. You are shattering my dream of working for Nike when I retire (for the first time).
Officiating in some areas is very provincial. I know of two professional minor league baseball umpires who are not yet allowed to work Varsity games in their home association suring school season. Unfortunately "time-in" is valued more than ability by some associations.
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Unfortunately "time-in" is valued more than ability by some associations.
On our local board, the season in which you pass the written exam and the floor exam, doesn't count as a year. You must work at least three years of only junior varsity ball to move up. You must work at least three years of "split" ball, a combination or junior varsity and varsity games, to move up. Finally, after working at least three years of "split" ball, you can move up to full varsity, i.e all varsity games. So in reality, no matter how good your peer ratings, and rankings, are, you can't get a full varsity schedule until your seventh (or eighth including your first "probation" year) year.

It didn't effect me. I took me four years to make "split", and four more years to make full varsity, two years more than the minumum.

Note: We have over 280 officials, 85 are considered full varsity, 30 are considered "split". We service about 70 high schools, most with both boys and girls programs, as well as many freshman programs, and many middle school programs.

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Old Tue Jan 01, 2008, 03:54pm
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On our local board, the season in which you pass the written exam and the floor exam, doesn't count as a year. You must work at least three years of only junior varsity ball to move up. You must work at least three years of "split" ball, a combination or junior varsity and varsity games, to move up. Finally, after working at least three years of "split" ball, you can move up to full varsity, i.e all varsity games. So in reality, no matter how good your peer ratings, and rankings, are, you can't get a full varsity schedule until your seventh (or eighth including your first "probation" year) year.

It didn't effect me. I took me four years to make "split", and four more years to make full varsity, two years more than the minumum.

Note: We have over 280 officials, 85 are considered full varsity, 30 are considered "split". We service about 70 high schools, most with both boys and girls programs, as well as many freshman programs, and many middle school programs.
Pathetic. Systems such as this exist to protect those on top instead of instead of developing and utilzing better officials.

This system would prohibit a retired NCAA D-1 Final Four experienced official from working varsity for seven years. Incredible.
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Pathetic. Systems such as this exist to protect those on top instead of instead of developing and utilzing better officials.

This system would prohibit a retired NCAA D-1 Final Four experienced official from working varsity for seven years. Incredible.
No, it keeps them from having all-varsity for 7 years. They get SOME varsity after 4 years. I wonder how good a retired NCAA D1 ref would be at HS varsity. Personally, I'd rather have those folks take a year or to to "adjust down" to a different set of expectations. Although I expect 4 years may be a bit too long.
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Old Tue Jan 01, 2008, 04:29pm
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No, it keeps them from having all-varsity for 7 years. They get SOME varsity after 4 years. I wonder how good a retired NCAA D1 ref would be at HS varsity. Personally, I'd rather have those folks take a year or to to "adjust down" to a different set of expectations. Although I expect 4 years may be a bit too long.

Juulie - do you think Howard would give Joey Crawford some varsity games if he retired and moved to Portland?

WOW! Joey Crawford working HS. I'd pay to see that. Can't you just see him working an Oregon City girls game!
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Old Tue Jan 01, 2008, 04:33pm
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Juulie - do you think Howard would give Joey Crawford some varsity games if he retired and moved to Portland?

WOW! Joey Crawford working HS. I'd pay to see that. Can't you just see him working an Oregon City girls game!
I'd like to see him tangle with Doherty at OC. THAT would be interesting. Or that %^&&( at Hillsboro. I'd bet on tossing him in about a minute and a half.
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