Cool. Now you tell me how that you <b>definitively</b> know that the posters making these <b>supposed</b> put-downs are actually <b>males</b>?:confused:

Start with me. How do you that I'm really a male? Continue with Scrappy. How do you know that Scrappy is a male also? Did you ever think that it's possible that Scrappy might be a female that thinks that misandry is as bad as misogny(unlike Rita who seems to think that misandry is just fine).

And why is it bad for the males to generally "put down" women, but it's fine for women to generally put down men? Example--->Rita?

My perception is that you don't have a clue what you're talking about, but that ain't gonna stop you from preaching. Carry on.

Gator, I dont entirely agree with Jurassic but I do think you've overstated the situation. There's no question that there is some sexism that shows up on this board from time to time, and there's definitely some systemic sexism in our society that's reflected here, but I personally know both Scrappy and Mark Padgett, and I'm becoming more acquainted with Rita recently and I'm pretty sure the whole flap in this thread is a result of some misunderstandings about language (which btw isn't even remotely meaningless).

What Rita said about everyone in our society needing to be confronted about our prejudices and bigotries (we've all got 'em) is true, but sometimes an individual isn't in a position to hear it, or hears a message that was intended for someone else. Especially on an internet venue, it's easy for things to sound more negative than they should. Scrappy, is a person who works hard to be kind and polite (non-offensive) to everyone and felt personally slammed by Rita's criticsm against people who didn't see Padgett's "joke" as offensive. Neither Rita nor Scrappy is backing down from their position about Padgett's joke.

It's really a language issue 100%. It's not going to be resolved in this thread, but my hope is that over time we here on this board will have gotten a little bit of something from this, and go forward with a way to get along better.

Although I know that goes totally against the self-styled pricks who try as hard as possible to be rude and obnoxious universally. At least they're non-discriminating in their offense.

Thanks, Juulie. You know me and you know I don't have a prejudiced bone in my body, especially when it comes to my opinions about women. My "joke" was a parody on how men react to comments about having their masculinity threatened when a remark is made about how they are acting like a woman.

Gee - I guess I just confessed I actually don't resent the French. Maybe I'd better rephrase my previous remarks. :eek:

Mark -- I won't swear to your not having a prejudiced bone in your body toward women, but I WILL swear to your having fewer prejudiced bones toward women than almost anyone I know (Scrappy probably has as few as you).

It's always interesting to me to see how each person handles our own prejudices and those of others, those toward us and those toward others. It's a huge subject, and troublesome. But if we didn't have this to be upset about, what would we?

1) Agreed. And sometimes people that are confronted with their prejudices and bigotries absolutely refuse to accept that they have any. That would be Rita in the opinion of some, including Scrappy. Bigotry and prejudice go both ways. Rita made a derogatory remark directed at <b>ALL</b> men. Pot--->kettle--->black.

2) And that's where you're wrong imo. The self-styled rude, obnoxious pricks of the world(aka Dan and probably me also) just might be right the odd time in their take on certain things. Don't confuse the message with the way that the message is being delivered.

JMVHO....:)

1) reference, please?

2) I didn't say they were always wrong. I just said that I hope we can "all get along" but I"m not sure everyone really wants to.

3) Sometimes it's pretty hard to divine the message when the delivery is pure invective.

1) Post #18 of this thread- by Rita. That's what brought Scrappy into a state of such high dudgeon. Post #59 where she says that she's only trying to fix ignorance is kind of a hoot too imo.

2) And from some of the other comments in this thread, I was kinda having a few doubts about others wanting to get along too. Btw, disagreeing with someone doesn't mean that they're not getting along.

3) Nope, there really was a message in Dan's post. I got it too. The fact that this thread is still going is a monument to his message.

Which is more or less how this got started.

Nope. It's a monument to the real-lives of the mods.

Gee, Juulie. I'm kind of disappointed at your "lukewarm" endorsement. But I guess that's what I should expect from a girl. :p

Cool!!! Believe it or not, and I'm not being a smart-a$$ here, I've always wondered what word applied to men the same way misogyny applied to women.

Learnt me something today.

Now learn "misanthropic". That describes how I feel about some coaches. Don't ask what the word is that describes how they feel about me. You couldn't post in on this "family" site anyway. :cool:

Actually, I made an assumption about regular posters based on what Rainmaker said in her post earlier in this discussion:

Oppps - I didn’t factor in the possibility that you or Scrappy might be posting as both “yourselves” and as Rita :)


Nothing makes it OK for either to put down the other. One of the reasons I intensely dislike groups such as NOW is their anti male rhetoric.

That’s fair. I offered my perception as you did. Rereading what I wrote I can understand how it came across as preaching when I meant it and tried to state it as MY observation based on MY experience.

1) I cannot believe that we would even havvng about this subject in the first place. Who cares whether a woman coaches a boys' or men's team and who cares whether a man coaches a girls' or women's team. It does NOT matter.

2) I cannot believe that this thread has gone on for SEVEN (7) that is SEVEN pages.

Happy New Year!!

MTD, Sr.

You can adjust the number of posts/per page.

On my "screen" it's only three pages long. (insert Yogi Berra joke about not being able to eat 8 pieces of pizza.)

That said, I agree with you that it's much ado about nothing.