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MichaelVA2000 Mon Dec 31, 2007 06:59pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac
I am a fan of the FX Network televison show "Rescue Me", with Denis Leary. I am not a firefighter, nor an I a New Yorker, yet I noticed that in the show, this diverse group of firefighters in the station say some very politically incorrect things to each other, yet the bond of their very dangerous job seems to counteract the "offensiveness" of the comments.

I'm not pleased with the offensive comments, but, I'm very pleased with their laizzez faire attitude toward these comments. As Rodney King, and I have mixed feelings about him, once said, "Can't we all just get along".

Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?
Why can't we be friends?

I seen you 'round for a long long time

War

Rita C Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:03pm

Apologies?
 
I was starting to feel bad about what I started. Especially on how I've pissed off Scrapper by insulting the entire male population.

Then I remembered several of the things I read in the replies:

Some people work hard to be offended and look for it.

Some people are only happy when they aren't happy.

So I realized it really isn't any of it my fault.

Rita

rainmaker Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rita C
I was starting to feel bad about what I started. Especially on how I've pissed off Scrapper by insulting the entire male population.

Then I remembered several of the things I read in the replies:

Some people work hard to be offended and look for it.

Some people are only happy when they aren't happy.

So I realized it really isn't any of it my fault.

Rita

Bwa-ha-ha-ha-haaaaa.....

rockyroad Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:11am

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Originally Posted by rainmaker
Thank you.

or

Shut up.

Whichever.

ROFLMAO!! Excellent response, Juulie...

OTOH, I gotta agree with Dan about the whole "finding ways to be offended" bit (and the part about him being a prick)...and I gotta say that it takes a lot, and I mean a LOT, to get Scrappy-Doo all fired up!! :p

Adam Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:16am

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Originally Posted by rockyroad
ROFLMAO!! Excellent response, Juulie...

OTOH, I gotta agree with Dan about the whole "finding ways to be offended" bit (and the part about him being a prick)...and I gotta say that it takes a lot, and I mean a LOT, to get Scrappy-Doo all fired up!! :p

I don't know. He gets a little owly when the Mystery Machine doesn't start.

just another ref Tue Jan 01, 2008 01:24am

Hard to believe, but I just read this thread for the first time. Sometimes it helps to state the obvious. Men, for the most part, take pride in trying to be as "manly" as possible. Men, also for the most part, spend a lot of time insulting other men. It is fair to say that most men are very interested in women. Therefore, most men have their own image of the ideal woman. This ideal woman would most often tend to be quite feminine, or, the opposite of a man, if you will. Therefore, what better way to insult another man than by calling him a woman. (the opposite of a man) These same men might see a woman that they perceive, rightfully or otherwise, to be not so feminine. One of the adjectives used to describe this woman is often manly. Is this intended to be derogatory to the woman? Probably so. Is this intended to be derogatory to men? I would say definitely not.

Try this one. One of the characteristics looked upon favorably by most men is to be tall. When one who is not so tall is referred to as "a little shrimp," is this offensive to shrimp?

Jurassic Referee Tue Jan 01, 2008 06:07am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rita C
I was starting to feel bad about what I started. Especially on how I've pissed off Scrapper by insulting the entire male population.

Then I remembered several of the things I read in the replies:

Some people work hard to be offended and look for it.

Some people are only happy when they aren't happy.

<font color = red>So I realized it really isn't any of it my fault.</font>

Finally we agree. It's not your fault; it's just the way that you are and you can't do anything about it.

Obladi, oblidah, life goes on, eh?

Hey, at least, you're happy though. :)

DonInKansas Tue Jan 01, 2008 07:51am

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Originally Posted by just another ref
When one who is not so tall is referred to as "a little shrimp," is this offensive to shrimp?

My colleagues at "The Equal Rights for Shrimp Coalition" will hear of this! *shakes fist*

mbyron Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:07am

This thread reminds me of a joke.

Q: How many feminists does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A: That's not funny.

rockyroad Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:48am

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Originally Posted by just another ref

Try this one. One of the characteristics looked upon favorably by most men is to be tall. When one who is not so tall is referred to as "a little shrimp," is this offensive to shrimp?

OK, now you're getting downright nasty! No reason, no reason at all, to take a perfectly good thread dealing with the dangers of the inherent sexist attitudes prevalent in today's society and turn that thread into a joke about Scrapper. That's just not right!:p

Back In The Saddle Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:54am

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Originally Posted by rockyroad
OK, now you're getting downright nasty! No reason, no reason at all, to take a perfectly good thread dealing with the dangers of the inherent sexist attitudes prevalent in today's society and turn that thread into a joke about Scrapper. That's just not right!:p

Yep, this one went squirrelly in a hurry. But it's okay, Scrappy's got the ba...hmmm, well, you get the picture. :D

rainmaker Tue Jan 01, 2008 01:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron
This thread reminds me of a joke.

Q: How many feminists does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A: That's not funny.

Q: Do you know why it takes two women with PMS to change a lightbulb?
A: IT Just DOES!!

BillyMac Tue Jan 01, 2008 01:11pm

Proper Uniform ???
 
I'm sure that many of us have preconceived notions about what some frequent posters on the Forum look like. After months of internet background checks, I was finally able to find a photo of Jurassic Referee. Please note the "old fashioned" collared shirt. I guess that Jurassic also wears the shirt to work at Footlocker.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/saintseminole/91305509

Also, Jurassic is a lot better looking than my preconceived notion. It all goes to show, we shouldn't prejudge people.

Mark Padgett Tue Jan 01, 2008 01:25pm

What's the ideal woman? Here's a story:

Every year during football season, a local grocery chain lets it's employees wear football jerseys on weekends. Last year I was in line at this store. Right in front of me were two guys in their 20s who were buying only beer and chips. The cashier was a young woman who had a little sign on her name badge that said she had laryngitis and could not speak.

One of the guys said to her, "Oh, you can't speak, huh?" She shook her head "no". He then pointed to the beer and asked her if she liked beer. She shook her head "yes". He then pointed at her football jersey and said, "Wait a minute. You like football, you like beer, you're cute, you have a job and you can't speak. You're the perfect woman! Will you marry me?"

Even she had to laugh. I don't know if they ever got married, though.

Gator Tue Jan 01, 2008 03:16pm

1) I'm not a ref - just a fan who reads the forum because it is instructive and I've a LOT to learn about the game I have come to love.

2) My perception is that there are many posters here who have little or no respect for females playing BB. I would bet that if you did a forum search on "girls" you would find that a significant percent of the time it involved a put down type comment. At least that has been my reaction in reading this forum over the years.

3) I worked in corporate America for long enough to get a pension and lived through the bra burning era and before I retired, the President of my division was a woman. She is now the COO of a multinational corporation. My experience is that women make many of the dumb mistakes males make :)

In my experience, at some level, many men resent having to share the jobs which used to be all men with females. This seems to have decreased significantly as the guys who grew up seeing women in all sorts of job get to be more numerous. However, the tradition of men in an all male environment tending to be rather free with less than flattering comments about women continues and this forum is often treated as a "male club".

There is a time to let it go and get on with important stuff and there is a time to say ENOUGH! The he said/she said quibbling about how language was used is meaningless. The FACT is that this discussion started because a simple statement about a woman coaching a boy's team resulted in some nasty asides about women. The women here called the posters on it. Some may not understand why the women reacted and try to portray it as the women's problem. That tactic is as old as the hills and as discredited.


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