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Old Sat Dec 15, 2007, 12:42am
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Okay,

Had a BV game last night and here is the skinny:

Time running out on the clock, A1 takes a 3 point attempt, A2 pushes B1 while the ball is in flight, literly plowes him out of the paint. Tweet, I have a whistle on A2, the 3 point basket is good and Team B is in the bonus. So, we go and shoot the 1 and 1 on the other end. I get in the locker room and the R is pissed that I had a whistle on that call and states that since there was 4.9 left on the clock, I should have let that one go. I told him that it was a total dislodge and put B1 at a disadvantage. Am I wrong for making such a call??? Comments.....
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2007, 01:51am
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I would have made the call.

I don't think that because there is only 4 or 5 seconds left in the game that we should "let things go." I think it's bad practice, but that could be because I'm trying to call everything I can...
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2007, 06:34am
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I think that your R is in need of a proctol exam because that is obviously where he has his head.

Please continue to officiate properly without regard to the amount of time remaining or the score.

Edit: Sorry I left out two words.

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Old Sat Dec 15, 2007, 08:49am
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Please continue to officiate properly without regard to the amount of time remaining or the score.
Agree 100%.
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2007, 09:16am
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I think that your R is need of a proctol exam because is obviously where he has his head.

Please continue to officiate properly without regard to the amount of time remaining or the score.
While I agree with this, recognize that whether a shot is good and the location of the rebound if it isn't can influence whether the contact is a foul. Some contact is so egregious that it will be a foul even if the shot is good -- that may have been the case in your play.
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2007, 10:19am
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You should understand that some officials like to take the path of least resistance. Honestly, that path is in the stands or at home in front of the TV. You will often have situations where I like to say, "You have to get dirty." Don't worry about it, the last thing you want to do is have something bad happen or have a coach send a tape to your assigner pointing out something that was obvious and wasn't called.

Did this call have an impact on the final score?
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2007, 10:28am
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Please point me to the section of the rule book that states with 4.9 or less on the game clock, fouls should not be called.
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2007, 11:04am
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You should understand that some officials like to take the path of least resistance. Honestly, that path is in the stands or at home in front of the TV. You will often have situations where I like to say, "You have to get dirty." Don't worry about it, the last thing you want to do is have something bad happen or have a coach send a tape to your assigner pointing out something that was obvious and wasn't called.

Did this call have an impact on the final score?
Nope. But it was a very obvious foul.
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2007, 11:10am
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Okay,

Had a BV game last night and here is the skinny:

Time running out on the clock, A1 takes a 3 point attempt, A2 pushes B1 while the ball is in flight, literly plowes him out of the paint. Tweet, I have a whistle on A2, the 3 point basket is good and Team B is in the bonus. So, we go and shoot the 1 and 1 on the other end. I get in the locker room and the R is pissed that I had a whistle on that call and states that since there was 4.9 left on the clock, I should have let that one go. I told him that it was a total dislodge and put B1 at a disadvantage. Am I wrong for making such a call??? Comments.....
I've got a foul too. Good call, good administration.
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2007, 11:23am
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You certainly wouldn't be wrong...we don't leave the court with 5 seconds left in the game so we should be willing to call what we need to no matter how much time is left. But in echoing Bob's statement, it might be beneficial to be just a half-second more patient and determine if the ball goes in and if it doesn't if an advantage is being gained. From your description though, it sounds like pretty solid contact. In this situation I would say you probably need to get it. You can have a great game ruined by a hard foul in the last couple of seconds which has the potential to lead to an injury, technical foul or worse a fight. Work the game until the buzzer and in doing so always be cognizant of the game situation and advantage/disadvantage situations.
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Okay,

Had a BV game last night and here is the skinny:

Time running out on the clock, A1 takes a 3 point attempt, A2 pushes B1 while the ball is in flight, literly plowes him out of the paint. Tweet, I have a whistle on A2, the 3 point basket is good and Team B is in the bonus. So, we go and shoot the 1 and 1 on the other end. I get in the locker room and the R is pissed that I had a whistle on that call and states that since there was 4.9 left on the clock, I should have let that one go. I told him that it was a total dislodge and put B1 at a disadvantage. Am I wrong for making such a call??? Comments.....
If the ball went in how is B1 at a disadvantage?
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2007, 12:39pm
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If the ball went in how is B1 at a disadvantage?
Speculation on my part and I know it doesn't answer your specific question.

But it may have to do with the temperature of the game. A contentious game between rivals and B1 may retaliate if there is no whistle?
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2007, 01:00pm
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Okay,

Had a BV game last night and here is the skinny:

Time running out on the clock, A1 takes a 3 point attempt, A2 pushes B1 while the ball is in flight, literly plowes him out of the paint. Tweet, I have a whistle on A2, the 3 point basket is good and Team B is in the bonus. So, we go and shoot the 1 and 1 on the other end. I get in the locker room and the R is pissed that I had a whistle on that call and states that since there was 4.9 left on the clock, I should have let that one go. I told him that it was a total dislodge and put B1 at a disadvantage. Am I wrong for making such a call??? Comments.....
OK I have a question.
Did you wave off the made three point basket because of the foul on A2? Then go to the other end and shoot your 1 &1.
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Old Sat Dec 15, 2007, 01:03pm
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OK I have a question.
Did you wave off the made three point basket because of the foul on A2? Then go to the other end and shoot your 1 &1.
He better not have.

But OP did say "Tweet, I have a whistle on A2, the 3 point basket is good and Team B is in the bonus." so it appears he did count the 3-pointer.
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OK I have a question.
Did you wave off the made three point basket because of the foul on A2? Then go to the other end and shoot your 1 &1.
Good question! Would you have waived off the 3 pointer?
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