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Adam Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:46pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
I don't believe that making a kid think that he is going to get hurt is ever an acceptable tactic. :(

I've never heard them yell that, so I can't say I disagree with you. Usually I hear them yell "shot."

Scrapper1 Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:47pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
My personal opinion is that's a technical foul, but I doubt that there is widespread agreement upon that.

I agree that it is unsporting, but I've been quite clearly told by higher ups to let it go.

Jurassic Referee Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:56pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref
To me it is "behavior not in accordance with the spirit of fair play."

I don't see how a player yelling, "Look out!" at an opponent going in for an uncontested layup is sporting behavior.

That's just not acceptable at the HS level.

If you feel that it is unsporting, then you have rulebook backing to call a technical foul. Feel free to do so.

Have the courage of your convictions.

Jurassic Referee Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:59pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
I agree that it is unsporting, but I've been quite clearly told by <font color = red>higher ups</font> to let it go.

Gratuitous and mandatory Chuck Elias reference aside, what "higher-ups"? Association, state, IABBO?

Adam Tue Dec 18, 2007 01:03pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Gratuitous and mandatory

Which is it? Gratuitous or mandatory? Kinda like "intentional flagrant." It can't be both.

Jurassic Referee Tue Dec 18, 2007 01:06pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Which is it? Gratuitous or mandatory? Kinda like "intentional flagrant." It can't be both.

Shut up.

...or...

Thank you.

Scrapper1 Tue Dec 18, 2007 01:52pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
what "higher-ups"? Association, state, IABBO?

HS and NCAA interpreters.

Back In The Saddle Tue Dec 18, 2007 01:53pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
HS and NCAA interpreters.

So...what if you were to become the HS interpreter. Then what? :D

mick Tue Dec 18, 2007 01:55pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1
HS and NCAA interpreters.

I guess that since there is a rule about it, that chatter doesn't happen only in girls' Fed. :)

Jurassic Referee Tue Dec 18, 2007 01:58pm

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Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle
So...what if you were to become the HS interpreter. Then what? :D

Scrappy is an high school interpreter, I believe.

The issue, I guess, is whether it is wise to let a personal philosophy over-ride what is commonly called the "expected" call.

Scrapper1 Tue Dec 18, 2007 02:05pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
The issue, I guess, is whether it is wise to let a personal philosophy over-ride what is commonly called the "expected" call.

This is exactly correct. I personally feel that the yelling thing should be a T. Seems clearly unsporting to me. But the people that I work for and who teach me say that it is accepted -- along the lines of the people here who say "it's not golf" -- and not to make myself the focal point by calling something that nobody else does.

Back In The Saddle Tue Dec 18, 2007 02:09pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Scrappy is an high school interpreter, I believe.

The issue, I guess, is whether it is wise to let a personal philosophy over-ride what is commonly called the "expected" call.

So kinda like stare decisis? :D

I know Scrapper's an interpreter; I'm just yankin' his chain a bit. ;)


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