How long before your first T to a coach?

[TheOracle]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

99% of the time coaches talk for one reason, to get the calls in their favor. Ever notice how they rarely say, "Hey we were holding their cutter that last trip down, can you watch for us doing that?"

I think you need a healthy level of cynicism when it comes to coaches...not the Dirty Harry level of Archer, but some. Too much self-reflection on comments will probably lead to calls swaying in an unfair way.

Did you ever think that instead of trying to get calls that some coaches, especially the ones at higher levels, are trying to alert your attention to a perceived disadvantage? Coaches spend time watching films and studying the game. They know when moving screens cause a huge advantage. They know when offensive players use their arms or uppoer body to illegally establish position. And these things are grey areas that occur in most games. Bad coahces are dumb--comments are just noise. But a lot of coaches just want to communicate, and may have valid points. Experience teaches how to distinguish. Cynical new officials will never learn.

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by TheOracle

Did you ever think that instead of trying to get calls that some coaches, especially the ones at higher levels, are trying to alert your attention to a perceived disadvantage? Coaches spend time watching films and studying the game. They know when moving screens cause a huge advantage. They know when offensive players use their arms or uppoer body to illegally establish position. And these things are grey areas that occur in most games. Bad coahces are dumb--comments are just noise. But a lot of coaches just want to communicate, and may have valid points. Experience teaches how to distinguish. Cynical new officials will never learn.

If they are alerting you to a perceived disadvantage, are they not trying to get the call in their favor? Geesh.

Something tells me every time a coach yells 3 seconds the oracle blows his whistle, every time they yell reach there's a whistle, moving screen whistle, over the back whistle...

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by TheOracle

Did you ever think that instead of trying to get calls that some coaches, especially the ones at higher levels, are trying to alert your attention to a perceived disadvantage? Coaches spend time watching films and studying the game. They know when moving screens cause a huge advantage. They know when offensive players use their arms or uppoer body to illegally establish position. And these things are grey areas that occur in most games. Bad coahces are dumb--comments are just noise. But a lot of coaches just want to communicate, and may have valid points. Experience teaches how to distinguish. Cynical new officials will never learn.

Well, that's certainly an Old School philosophy.

Welcome back, Old School. Better luck this time.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Well, that's certainly an Old School philosophy.

Welcome back, Old School. Better luck this time.

You're so cynical.

[dan74]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Well, that's certainly an Old School philosophy.

Welcome back, Old School. Better luck this time.

I have to admit that I've been wondering the same thing. Quite a similarity.